https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 00:18:47 +0000 Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:49:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.10 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=41872 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5793100&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5793100 Author: scribe
Subject: 41872
Posted: 15 April 2012 at 8:49pm

I have to force myself not to read the comments on that article, all 'children are a choice' and 'me me me my tax dollars' blah blah blah. People forget that children are the future and actually, giving them a chance to bond with their mothers prevents further problems down the track. (But I know that the Stuff comment section doesn't represent the general views of the public - at least I hope not!)

I haven't taken maternity leave for either pregnancy, and don't intend to have more children, so this is not about me, but I really think that paid maternity leave is so important. Not just in the financial support it provides to struggling young families, but in the message it sends that newborn babies really need their mums (or dads) with them in their first year (actually I would argue 2 years) of life.

DomPost editorial makes a good argument for this. An extra $150 million per year is a very small piece of the Government's $100 billion pie, and money they could easily take from other 'nice to have', generous, slices, like paying the pension to those over 65 even if they continue to work.

As Dita De Boni said in the Herald, "It's the New Zealand disease. Save a buck here and lose out down the line".]]> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:49:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5793100&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5793100 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5793024&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5793024 Author: Hopes
Subject: 41872
Posted: 15 April 2012 at 5:36am

I can see why it got vetoed, but it's a pity, it would be a really good thing.

On the other hand, I'm just glad I don't live in America, we have it SO SO much better than them as far as parental leave goes.]]> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:36:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5793024&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5793024 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792970&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792970 Author: Isabella
Subject: 41872
Posted: 14 April 2012 at 3:43pm

Agree SethsMumma, most of the world is struggling with money at the moment, the last thing NZ needs to do is give more benefits out. However, if I had the choice of my tax going toward more PPL verses other benefits then I would chose PPL in a heartbeat. In an ideal world it would be great to give mum as much time at home with bubba as possible but while there are so many bludgers out there living it up large on our hard earned tax (grr I hate tax), the coffers are only so deep ]]> Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:43:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792970&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792970 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792815&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792815 Author: Lucky apple
Subject: 41872
Posted: 13 April 2012 at 1:49pm

Kernowexile - be sure to look into the Parental Tax Credit - it's worth $1200, so better than nothing and you don't have to be working.]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:49:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792815&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792815 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792782&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792782 Author: kernowexile
Subject: 41872
Posted: 13 April 2012 at 12:43pm

I think 14 weeks is a shockingly short time for parental leave! I wonder what studies have been done to show the benefits of at least 6 months in respect of the longer term benefit to not only the family but also the community.

As it happens after years of working, I am now a student so am ineligible for anything! And the other half gets one weeks unpaid leave which we might not take as we'll lose too much income. It does make me wonder how new families bond.]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:43:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792782&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792782 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792777&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792777 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 41872
Posted: 13 April 2012 at 12:15pm

One would wonder in the meantime if they could at least match the length that Australia gets, I know they're not going to match the amount Australia gets but the time length would be good at least?

Which reminds me, must look into parental tax credit seeing I'm not getting PPL this time.
]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:15:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792777&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792777 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792708&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792708 Author: SethsMama
Subject: 41872
Posted: 13 April 2012 at 7:01am

good point. ]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:01:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792708&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792708 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792696&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792696 Author: kandk
Subject: 41872
Posted: 12 April 2012 at 10:21pm

I wasn't meaning the tax paid by the temp worker, but the fact that they aren't having to be paid a benefit. There's a saving straight up. ]]> Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:21:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792696&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792696 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792681&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792681 Author: SethsMama
Subject: 41872
Posted: 12 April 2012 at 8:56pm

kandk wrote: What I don't get is why they claim it would cost so much more $$. Surely for every mother who receives a parental benefit, there is another temporary worker doing her job who is not receiving the unemployment benefit! I would have thought that that would make it almost cost neutral?? Apart from differences in the value of the respective benefits.

I don't think the tax the temp pays would be equal to the PPL payment. I actually understand why it is getting veto-d. It would be awesome if it did happen but it is the wrong thing to bring in when the country is trying to get out of debt. I think maybe if it gets introduced in a couple of years it will have a lot more chance of getting through...so hopefully someone introduces it again! ]]> Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:56:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792681&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792681 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792654&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792654 Author: kandk
Subject: 41872
Posted: 12 April 2012 at 7:11pm

What I don't get is why they claim it would cost so much more $$. Surely for every mother who receives a parental benefit, there is another temporary worker doing her job who is not receiving the unemployment benefit! I would have thought that that would make it almost cost neutral?? Apart from differences in the value of the respective benefits. ]]> Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:11:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792654&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792654 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792267&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792267 Author: sbeach
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 6:48pm

It would be great, even more would be better!

Just wish it could be in place for No. 2. Still what we get is better than nothing...]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:48:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792267&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792267 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792227&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792227 Author: jazzy
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 2:34pm

yay LR congrats on 22wks

It would be great, I think at least 6mths personally...but with saying that I remember when I had DS1 & we had none so it may happen slowly ]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:34:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792227&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792227 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792223&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792223 Author: LuckyRed
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 2:08pm

Haha, thanks Freck x]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:08:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792223&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792223 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792211&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792211 Author: freckle
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 1:03pm

Oh wow LR - 22 weeks!! over half way... and a BOY!! congratulations!!! (sorry off topic)
]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:03:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792211&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792211 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792208&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792208 Author: LuckyRed
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 12:42pm

That's what I thought monkeys! At least it's getting talked about and getting some media exposure.]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:42:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792208&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792208 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792198&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792198 Author: monkeys
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 11:32am

I read that and thought the same!! Would be great if it went through!! But I won't hold my breath
]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:32:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792198&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792198 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792179&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792179 Author: LuckyRed
Subject: 41872
Posted: 10 April 2012 at 10:05am

How brilliant would this be! ]]> Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:05:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41872&PID=5792179&title=extending-parental-leave-to-6-months#5792179