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TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry...

Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:05:54 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 19�February�2013 at 9:05pm

Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry girls, just realised I never updated this page. As per ticker almost 18 weeks along, baby looks to be absolutely healthy and is currently kicking me as I type <3.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Sorry Ariel I'm 11 wks preg...

Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:45:53 +0000

Author: Mjc121
Subject: 41705
Posted: 12�February�2013 at 5:45pm

Sorry Ariel I'm 11 wks preg YAY, after no troubles with no one, 11 iuis and 4 ivfs later we finally got success. Wishing u all best hope 2ww isn't dragging

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Anyone else joining me in here?...

Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:50:50 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 11�February�2013 at 1:50pm

Anyone else joining me in here? I'm still going - in the 2ww of my fourth clomid cycle - hoping this one does the trick!

Ceres, I still think of you. I can't stalk you on FB anymore, so hope things are progressing well.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : I think u do lose some points...

Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:54:44 +0000

Author: Mjc121
Subject: 41705
Posted: 19�December�2012 at 2:54pm

I think u do lose some points if you have no 1 already but it's not many like 5 when you get 40 for being under 35. We had enough points after two years of trying, no prob with no 1 and mild endo other than that we are unexplained

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Soda yep you will loose "points"...

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:34:27 +0000

Author: IVFGirl1111
Subject: 41705
Posted: 12�December�2012 at 9:34am

Soda yep you will loose "points" for already having one child but if you needed help having number 1 then you will "gain" some points.

I see you're in Blenheim so you would go to Fertility Associates in Christchurch and they are only around a 12 month wait for public funding.

Congratulations Ceres! That's awesome!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : OMG, that is amazing news Ceres...

Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:43:18 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�November�2012 at 8:43am

OMG, that is amazing news Ceres - yay! I'm sorry that about all the stresses that have happened but I have my fingers crossed that your HCG continues to rise. Make sure you update here after the scan

I think that at the most we'll do three cycles at the higher dose without further monitoring (my prescription has two repeats left). When we saw the FA Dr he said he would see us again in the new year if things weren't progressing.

So with all the graduates I guess that means I'm alone in here for now, hopefully that means it will be mine turn soon.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi Ariel, sorry to hear that ....

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:51:01 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 25�November�2012 at 5:51pm

Hi Ariel, sorry to hear that . Fingers crossed for this next cycle with the increased dose x. I went up to 150mg in the end, but I didn't ovulate at all on the lower doses. Bear in mind that clomid can decrease your lining too, so something to bear in mind (doing a few clomid cycles at higher doses is probably fine, but I wouldn't be keen on doing it for 6 months on end without scans to check your lining is okay for implantation). Just make sure you continue to take the tablets before bed and you should sleep through most of the side effects .

AFM, we were finally able to do a transfer after more than 3 months of jabs early November and got our BFP. But it's been a massive roller-coaster since, with a threatened miscarriage and probable loss of a twin. I'm still on tenterhooks, and not out of the woods yet, my progesterone is far too low, despite all the supplements - so I need it to go up up up. But my hcg is doing exactly what it should be. So we're just trying to take one day at a time and hanging out for the 7 week scan.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : BFN

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:33:54 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�November�2012 at 11:33am

BFN

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : It's very quiet in here -...

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:54:21 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 15�November�2012 at 1:54pm

It's very quiet in here - how are things going Ceres?

As for me, had a call from FA yesterday, and yes, they are doubling my dose to 100mg. Ceres, what dose did you go up to? I'm assuming the headaches and moodiness will be more of a problem next cycle

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : So, my first day 21 progesterone...

Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:02:59 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 13�November�2012 at 12:02pm

So, my first day 21 progesterone blood test on clomid was yesterday and just got the result - 23. The nurse said that this meant I'd ovulated, but that it is low and they would be hoping for 30-40 given I was taking clomid. She will take the results to the Dr but she said she thought he'd probably recommend that we doubled my dose (I'm currently on one tablet - 100mg I think?). I should hear back from them before Friday to see what they'd like to do, and to arrange a new script if necessary.

I'm disappointed the results aren't better, but at least I ovulated, and around the right time, which gives us a better shot this month than we have in any other given month.

If I don't get a BFP this month, I actually think my DH will be pretty stoked that we get to try again next month

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : If you want more info, the Fertility...

Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:42:40 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 10�November�2012 at 9:42am

If you want more info, the Fertility Associates website isn't too bad

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : ahh thanks ArielAngel :) that...

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:25:29 +0000

Author: _Soda_
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�November�2012 at 9:25pm

ahh thanks ArielAngel :) that sounds more correct to me. i figured that since i dont ov on my own, and needed clomid and metformin to even ov let alone conceive then surely im elligable for something? id hate to have to wait 5 years to even start getting help! i understand the list is long, and theres so many people aching to have a child and im no more special than any of them lol, but still. oh well i still have 2 clomid rounds sitting here at home,and am busting my bum to lost the last 5 or so kgs i want to lose so there are no excuses they can use on me when the time comes! thanks for the info, and ill join you back here shortly! x x for now ill lurk and celebrate your BFPs with you :D xx

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi Soda. That doesn't sound...

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:32:03 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�November�2012 at 7:32pm

Hi Soda. That doesn't sound right to me - previous children lowers your score, but depending on your issues, it may just be a matter of time, so you might have to be trying for five years before you'd be eligible. I would assume though, that eventually you would qualify.

I've just had a low AMH test back, so if clomid doesn't work for us, then I doubt we will be waiting at least three years for public treatment (although we wouldn't be able to pay for IVF, we would at least privately fund IUI).

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi everyone :) I concieved my...

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:31:47 +0000

Author: _Soda_
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�November�2012 at 3:31pm

Hi everyone :) I concieved my gorgeous girl (22months old) with the help of clomid, we TTC'd for 6 months this year for number 2, including 3 clomid rounds with no luck, so are just having a wee break for a while, until maybe may next year and we'll hopefully get pregnant using the last of my clomid from this time (i have 2 rounds left) I was talking to my GP the other day when i was at the docs for something else, as i have just moved to auckland, and mentioned we were wanting to be TTC next year and what is the story with who you see for fertility treatment etc in auckland ( in the town i lived in you just went directly to the OBGYN at the hospital as she was the only one in the town and shed sort things from there..) and my GP sais something about it being my 2nd child, so if we already have had one successful pregnancy, regardless of the fact we needed fert. drugs to concieve, we might not be elligable for public funding? does this sound right to you? if it is ill just pay to go private through my old OBGYN in the south island.. but it sounds pretty off to me! so any advice would be great, and good luck everyone! x

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Finally called and got my AMH...

Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:38:22 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 30�October�2012 at 11:38am

Finally called and got my AMH - 9.35 - which is just on the borderline between normal and reduced fertility for my age. I'm a little worried as I was really hoping to be average, not below average, but at least it's been tested and we know how long I have (which maybe isn't as long as someone else, but still not too bad given that age, for now, is on my side).

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks Ceres. Nope, not being...

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:46:52 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 29�October�2012 at 10:46am

Thanks Ceres. Nope, not being monitored apart from day 21 bloods. Will be interesting to see what those say (hopefully that I ov'd!).

It's funny/interesting, but when I think back on it, there have actually been two people prior to this friend who have had fallen pregnant and had their babies since DD was born, but I guess I consider this one to be the most significant given that I didn't have AF back when the others fell pregnant.

And definitely Ceres - we are both going to be pregnant before Christmas and instead of worrying about getting pregnant, it will be how to come up with 100 excuses why we can't eat the cold ham or drink!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Are you being monitored Ariel?...

Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:26:42 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 28�October�2012 at 10:26pm

Are you being monitored Ariel? FX for a super good quality egg and a 'normal' ovulation time (ya' know, like the 28 day cycle you read about).

We're in the same boat with friends falling and having babies in the time we've trying, and those babies are now 2 months old. Hopefully we're both UTD this side of Christmas ..

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Last pill popped today, have my...

Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:18:28 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 28�October�2012 at 10:18pm

Last pill popped today, have my fingers crossed that it will get me ovulating and we'll catch that egg!

I can now say, that in the time we've been trying for number 2, that a friend has fallen pregnant and given birth (she had her bub this morning). Happy for her, and looking forward to newborn cuddles, but just another reminder of how much time has passed.

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks Ceres, and for the advice....

Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:05:12 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 27�October�2012 at 9:05am

Thanks Ceres, and for the advice. I hate feeling all emotional, glad it will hopefully be over soon (doesn't help that I've also come down with DH's cold).

If I remember I'll call FAW on Monday. I had a bunch of blood tests done so I might as well get the results of the others while I'm at it. I've been sticking my head in the sand a bit about the other tests (incl the prolactin) because I really want to feel positive about doing something and if the results are bad then I don't want that clouding my clomid cycles (if that makes sense).

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Sorry to read in the other thread...

Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:52:20 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�October�2012 at 1:52pm

Sorry to read in the other thread you're getting some side effects, Ariel. Hopefully they disappear quickly after that last tablet. Re AMH - from what I understand the lab runs them every so often (can't remember, was fortnightly or monthly in Auckland). I'd be inclined to give FAW a call anyway, just to check up. I'd take it as a positive if they haven't got in touch though, that probably means if the result is back that it's nothing to worry about .

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : GoingCrazy - Home for Life is...

Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:18:04 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 25�October�2012 at 11:18am

GoingCrazy - Home for Life is permanent fostering. You have legal rights as their guardians but you don't get a new birth certificate etc like with adoption. Sometimes the birth parents will have visiting rights and I think they are usually also listed as guardians but without rights? Home for Life kids can be all ages though but there are a lot more children available through HFL than adoption. There are lots of things to think about though, in terms of the effects birth mum's drug/alcohol intake while pregnant could have, and perhaps the environment they have been in since birth.

My mum was adopted, so I guess perhaps it is more normalised for me? We haven't done any of the information sessions or anything, so I'm still not sure if we will actually go there, but it is certainly an option anyway.

Thanks Ceres. And yup, took my first pill last night and so far no nasty side effects. I'm guessing the hormonal thing might take a few days. I'm on 50mg, so hopefully don't get any!

Speaking of AMH, I had my blood test a few weeks ago for that, how long do the results take? I wonder if I should call FA to the results?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That's exciting Ariel! I...

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:36:57 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�October�2012 at 1:36pm

That's exciting Ariel! I hope that you have success with it too, bring it eh! What dose are you on? I'm sure you've read elsewhere, but a good idea to take the tab at night so you sleep through any side effects. (I didn't get side effects until I was on 150mg from memory, so you might get away scott free anyway).

Going Crazy, it is really frustrating hearing over, and over, and over, again that people have fallen without trying, or are on to 'x' child in the time you've been trying. Get it completely. I tell myself that my DD is the MOST precious thing in the world - and if we hadn't had that wait it wouldn't have been her. Telling myself that this time too, the baby we have will be worth the wait and then some. It helps, some. We're not ready to put a time frame on it yet. But we do have plans in place, if this FET doesn't work then we'll do another with our last embie. If that doesn't work we'll look at doing one more privately funded cycle. Then we have a public funded IVF due in a couple of years. My big worry is my AMH is not good at all, so with each month we don't get pregnant the chance of IVF even helping reduces further. It's a tough one all right. But I see myself with more than one, so we will do everything in our power to make that happen. Ariel, I think it's awesome you're looking at HFL and adoption. Good on you.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : What is home for life??? is that...

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:31:32 +0000

Author: GoingCrazy
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�October�2012 at 1:31pm

What is home for life??? is that fostering? DH doesn't want to pay for any treatment, because there is no guarantee, he would rather use money to give our DS an awesome life instead... I'm already 36 so time isn't really on my side, I know that's not old, but its not young either! I feel that i spent half my twenties preventing pregnancy, then the later half and my early thirties trying desperately!!

Did it take you long to concieve your DD Ariel?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : We all totally understand the...

Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:18:24 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�October�2012 at 8:18am

We all totally understand the frustration of other people getting pregnant so easily when for us it's a struggle, feel free to vent away

As for us, for now our deadline is when I'm 40 - which is 8 years away. It seems a really really long time to be TTC though, I think I'll probably go insane if we don't get pregnant in that time. DH and I have talked adoption and Home For Life - so once we've done these clomid rounds we might start going down that route while we wait to qualify for public IVF (we can't afford to pay for much more fertility treatment). I'm definitely thankful for DD, and that for now we have time on our side.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : hey Ariel - i've had surgery...

Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:56:53 +0000

Author: GoingCrazy
Subject: 41705
Posted: 23�October�2012 at 8:56pm

hey Ariel - i've had surgery 5 times now, been over 3 years since the last time.. my FS isn't happy about doing it again, says it is too traumatic... 11 months TTC seriously, is a bloody long time.. it gets so disheartening...

I'm on CD 23, AF due in 5 days... I think all hope of a BFP are out the window again this month, because all the familiar telltale signs are starting to show... sigh... One more month, and then we're out of the running, DH wants to get on with life, we have our DS, which is one more child than we ever thought we'd ever have.. so we are blessed and lucky... but still, i just want ONE MORE BLOODY CHILD!!!!! Grrrrrr I find it so frustrating! I have friends who are onto their FOURTH with no trying whatsoever!! sorry didn't mean to yell

Do any of you girls have a deadline for another child?? Do you think there will ever be a time you'll think "ok, gave it our best shot, time to move on" ????

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Glad things are moving along for...

Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:34:31 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 22�October�2012 at 7:34pm

Glad things are moving along for you Ceres - bring on next month!

As for me, CD1 today, so will start taking clomid on Wednesday night - nervous and excited! I really hope we are one of those couples where it works first time!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi girls, welcome GoingCrazy -...

Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:38:05 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 21�October�2012 at 1:38pm

Hi girls, welcome GoingCrazy - hope your stay is short (in the nicest possible way!)When do you test/expect AF?

Bugbug I'm truly sorry to read that you didn't get your BFP with the last IUI. It sounds like you have got a really good focus now, but I do hope you get your surprise miracle in the future. All the very best.

How are you going Ariel? Has AF arrived yet to start clomid?

Nice to hear from you Frankie . I hope your pregnancy is going really well!

AFM, chugging along with jabs and tabs (ohh, a poet!). Should have some action next month with progress to the next stage.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : How often do you have surgery...

Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:42:12 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 20�October�2012 at 8:42am

How often do you have surgery Going Crazy? Sucks that there is only a three month window but hopefully that is enough!

Once DD was born, we never used protection so I would almost say we never really stopped TTC (except for being pregnant of course, lol) - but AF didn't arrive until she was 9 months old, so would say we have been seriously TTC for 11 months now.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi ArielAngel - i know right??...

Fri, 19 Oct 2012 01:20:08 +0000

Author: GoingCrazy
Subject: 41705
Posted: 19�October�2012 at 1:20am

Hi ArielAngel - i know right?? I mean, if my body can do it once, all on its own (well, with a little help from dh..) why can't it remember this time??

I'm not on any drugs, my FS says apart from the scarring from endo, I don't have any other problem. Surgery two months ago cleared everything out, so FS is confident that I should get BFP.... same happend last time, had the surgery then got pregnant... only thing is, I only have a 3 month window - FS said first 3 months after surgery is the best time, because endo returns and it will be even harder to get bfp then. My age is getting up there too!!!

How long have you been trying for #2? If you don't mind me asking!!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Welcome GoingCrazy! We were also...

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:14:42 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�October�2012 at 2:14pm

Welcome GoingCrazy! We were also told IVF would be our only option due to issues with both DH and myself, but we too got a natural BFP. I know your frustration - it seems like if your body can do it once, it should be able to do it again

I'm about to start my first cycle on clomid, are you on any fertility drugs at the moment? (or perhaps now, given your issue is scarring?)

Edited by ArielAngel - 18�October�2012 at 2:15pm

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi girls, i have just joined ohbaby...

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:00:15 +0000

Author: GoingCrazy
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�October�2012 at 2:00pm

Hi girls, i have just joined ohbaby yesterday, and would love to join your thread! It took me years to concieve my DS who is now 2.5, and I have been TTC #2 for the past 18 months. I have endometriosis, and was told prior to BFP with my son that i would not be able to concieve naturally due to scarring. I got my BFP naturally, the month I was due to start IVF... I had thought #2 would be easy as, but so far, that BFP has remained elusive... I had surgery almost 2 months ago to clear my tubes (5th bout of surgery) and am in my TWW now.... FX this is my month....

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Sorry to hear about the BFN bugbug,...

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:04:36 +0000

Author: frankie
Subject: 41705
Posted: 17�October�2012 at 9:04am

Sorry to hear about the BFN bugbug, do hope that you have a surprise BFP one day soon. Good to hear that you have other things keeping you busy

Good luck Ariel, hope the clomid helps. Know what you mean, I figure there will just be some good and bad days but somehow people seem to do it!

Hi Ceres hope all is going well for you.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Bugbug, I totally understand hugs...

Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:08:37 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 17�October�2012 at 8:08am

Bugbug, I totally understand *hugs* I'm sorry you didn't get a BFP with the last cycle and truly hope you get one in the future but it's great that you have lots of things happening in your life to keep you busy.

As for me, CD24 today - five more prog pills (over next two and a half days) and then just waiting for AF to arrive before starting clomid - starting to get nervous, especially as had a bad day with DD yesterday and I just felt totally overwhelmed and wanted to cry - all I could wonder was how I would cope with two, eek!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : sorry about checking out for a...

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:06:36 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 16�October�2012 at 8:06pm

sorry about checking out for a bit there... now that the fertility treatment has finished, and i've moved on with life with my new job, plus heaps of other cool stuff happening in my life, i'm more relaxed about the ttc thing. in fact we're not even trying right now, but after a bit we might use up the last of my clomid pills. but for now i can't even tell you anywhere near what day of my cycle i am, and that feels sooo good! so will be checking out of here too, although may pop in from time to time to see how you guys are going....
all the best with everything... sorry i won't be here to be part of your journeys, but i need to focus on other things now. take care everyone.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Ceres, I didn't see any point...

Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:50:49 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 11�October�2012 at 10:50am

Ceres, I didn't see any point in doing a HPT as I'm only CD 17 or 18 (I've actually totally forgotten - terrible! lol)

Good luck with the FET!

Edited by ArielAngel - 11�October�2012 at 10:51am

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Bugbug I'm still thinking...

Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:59:40 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 10�October�2012 at 8:59pm

Bugbug I'm still thinking of you too x.

Ariel sounds like things are on the road for you! Did you do an HPT just in case? What CD are you now? Just curious, what did the Dr think caused the long cycles if not PCOS? Good luck with the clomid, I hope that does the trick for you x.

I'm back on buserelin, slowly ticking along to FET time...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Start my progesterone pills tomorrow....

Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:23:52 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�October�2012 at 11:23am

Start my progesterone pills tomorrow. I'm a bit nervous about it - in the unlikely event that I have managed to get pregnant this cycle naturally, will it impact on the pregnancy?

Hope everyone is well - still thinking of you bugbug

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Still thinking of you bugbug...

Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:05:55 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 02�October�2012 at 12:05pm

Still thinking of you bugbug

Ceres, how are you doing?

As for me, had our appointment at FA this morning - I really liked our Dr - he was straight up and he agreed with me about me probably not actually having PCOS - yay!

Did get told to lose some weight - at least 3kgs to be back at the same weight I was when we conceived DD. Not surprising really, and I do know I have to do it - DH was all nodding at that part though so I think he'll probably kick my ass into gear.

I've been prescribed with the pill to take in a weeks time, for ten days to bring on AF, then clomid at 50mg. We are just doing a Reviewed Cycle, so not fully monitored which is nice (non-intrusive into our lives and costs less) - just day 21 bloods and my clomid dose will be reviewed following those.

Dr is suspecting something other than PCOS is affecting my cycles so got some blood tests to do (incl AMH) but at least we can get started on the clomid and I feel like we are doing something and not just waiting around.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Me too x

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:51:17 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 29�September�2012 at 12:51pm

Me too x

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thinking of you bugbug...

Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:18:22 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 29�September�2012 at 9:18am

Thinking of you bugbug...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks so much ceres It's...

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:02:44 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�September�2012 at 9:02pm

Thanks so much ceres It's definitely been a rough day. I think I've managed to convince DH to have the SA done and do the initial appointment with FA to see where things go from here. If the Dr says we have a three year wait til we can get on the public waitlist (which from what you are saying above might be the case), then we'll re-evaluate our options. At this stage we definitely can't afford IVF, maybe if I went back to work full-time we could. The AMH test sounds like a good idea too - I saw in a forum somewhere else someone say you can always earn more money but you can't turn back time.

One nice thing that happened today, a close friend from high school told me she is 13 weeks pregnant with her first and I was immediately very happy for her - I am a little sad for me of course, but mostly happy and excited for her which is great, because I sometimes worry if I'll just become a bitter horrible person who can't be happy for anyone else who gets pregnant.

And yes, second that luck for your BT tomorrow - bring on a BFP! (no pressure! )

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Ariel, I know exactly where...

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:36:23 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�September�2012 at 7:36pm

Ariel,

I know exactly where you are right now, having been there ourselves, it sucks. First, it is really important to know that you conceived DD naturally, - that is HUGE. It means everything. Like your DH, my DH had a SA done in 2010 before we conceived DD that showed very subpar parameters - we were due to start IVF with ICSI in December 2010. But with ovary drilling, clomid, and progesterone, we DID fall pregnant on our own. So that shows that even with subpar swimmers - it can happen.

In saying that, I DO think it's worth having a repeat SA done - because numbers can change drastically (in either direction) over time, and you do need to know what's going on (i.e., the shock we got with the SA done earlier in the year for DH) and know that your DH probably can improve parameters as well, we did CoQ10 (150mg daily) + menevit with DH and his numbers improved massively before we did IVF.

The other thing that I'd be tempted to say is really important for you is an AMH test. That's the test that gives an idea of what your ovarian reserve is like. That tells you if you have time on your hands with public funding.

Finally, your IVF scoring is done from the time you started trying to conceive - so it doesn't actually matter when that appointment where the scoring is done is. I was told that the earliest time they allow you to state you started trying is 3 months post-partum - so in our case it would be May 2011. Our scoring, based on severe ovulatory problems, and MFI, would mean we would automatically qualify for the public wait list if we were child-free. Because we have a child living at home, we don't get enough points to go on the list until we have been trying for three years (i.e., would qualify for 'the list' in May 2014). Then there is the wait from there of approx a year in Auckland. What I'm getting at is, even if you do wait for a public funded appointment, it shouldn't affect your scoring or wait time. What you need to decide is whether you're okay with the public funding wait, and that might be influenced by your AMH number (or not, hopefully), and also the gap you wanted between children. To give you an idea, our IVF cycle with ICSI, where I needed the highest possible drug dose, and was a slow responder (so needed extra drugs again) cost approx $13k. It is a lot of money I know :|.

It's such a huge amount to process, and it really really sucks. I'm so sorry you're having to face this. I can't see why FA wouldn't do a payment scheme though, that seems really reasonable to me. As an FYI, an AMH test costs around $50-60. Sending big virtual hugs x.

Good luck with your BT tomorrow bugbug, will be thinking of you!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Have had a bit of an emotional...

Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:17:20 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�September�2012 at 1:17pm

Have had a bit of an emotional morning .

First up, a nurse from FA calls and says some of DH's results have come through and the Dr has asked for DH to have one of their more indepth SA done before our next appointment - at a cost of $140. I balk at the cost, knowing that DH won't be impressed. I txt him to let him know and that an email with more info will get sent through. He calls me later and says he's not keen on spending that money, especially on top of the $250 for our appointment next week - he says he will call FA and have more of a chat about why they want him to do another test.

He calls back later - basically he spoke to a lab/testing guy who said that given the results of the indepth SA he had two years ago, he felt our only option really would be IVF or IVF/ICSI at a cost of $12-$16k. This guy also didn't know why DH would have to test again, given his previously poor results - unless something in his most recent test indicated that his result would be significantly worse or better. DH is now asking whether there is any point in going ahead with the appointment just to find out that our only option of treatment is thousands of dollars and that we might not qualify for public funding. He is leaning towards asking for a referral to the hospital gynae, then seeing them and getting them to put through a public referral to FA which won't cost us anything - even though this will take six months plus (according to the Dr at Family Planning).

It's frustrating because I'm at work and there aren't any private areas so obviously can't call FA and have a discussion with them about it to find out if something in DHs most recent results prompted the request for a more indepth SA.

I feel like we should just get the test done and then have our appointment so we can at least get scored for public funding and find out what our options are - if we don't have the test I don't think there is any point in having the appointment as he might not want to make any decision until DH has had the further test and then we'll just be up for another appointment fee in the future. I want to call FA and find out if we can start paying $50 a week towards our appointments and tests etc, but again, can't do this from work.

I'm just feeling sick to the stomach that we'll have to wait six months to do anything - another of my birthdays will pass, friends will have had their babies and other friends will be pregnant, and I'll still be waiting...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : bummer re having to re schedule...

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:15:23 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�September�2012 at 10:15pm

bummer re having to re schedule appt ariel. hope your new appt isn't too far away.
testing thurs here....i hate having to test - i'd rather not know! if it were up to me i'd be at least 4 days late before i'd ever test!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks Ceres - I did wonder about...

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:39:55 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�September�2012 at 9:39am

Thanks Ceres - I did wonder about that, I guess it's just me being squeemish.

I have rescheduled the appointment though - I'm feeling even worse today and we couldn't find anyone to look after DD and I just don't think I'd be able to handle a meltdown, and as DH is sick too I think it's just better for our sanity to postpone.

I'm glad you are getting to move forward Ceres, hope the scan today shows everything is great.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Bugbug, I hope you get the surprise...

Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:20:33 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�September�2012 at 7:20am

Bugbug, I hope you get the surprise of your life too! When do you test?

Ariel, re your appointment tomorrow. They can most certainly do an internal when you've got AF, I've had it done a couple of times. I was apprehensive but I think the doctors are so normalised to checking things out at various times during the cycle that they honestly don't see it as an issue at all. So don't let that put you off. And if you're to go on clomid, you could start day 3, so I'd be reallllly reluctant to let this cycle go by without that appointment. I get the difficulty with DD though, I hope someone ends up being able to watch her for you x.

AFM, BT did finally show down regulation, so I started estrogen about 10 days ago and have a scan today to see how my lining has grown to see about scheduling the pipelle.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : I hope you end up getting a surprise...

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:50:32 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 23�September�2012 at 4:50pm

I hope you end up getting a surprise bugbug

I've actually been thinking this afternoon about postponing the FA appointment - I'm feeling like crap having caught DD's cold, and because she's sick I feel like I can't get anyone to look after her while we are at the appointment, which means taking her with us, but because of the time and because she is sick, I think she'll probably melt down, plus, with AF around they won't be able to do internal ultrasound if they decide they want to (well, at least I assume they won't). I think I'll see how we all feel tomorrow morning - I'm hoping 24 hours notice is enough to cancel an appointment.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : You might be alright with cd3...

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:34:01 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 23�September�2012 at 8:34am

You might be alright with cd3 ariel - if they do clomid, then that usually starts on day 3 or 5. bummer re AF tho - yay for shorter cycle.
hmmm still way not feeling pregnant... no signs whatsoever and gut feeling is no. but at least i have new job to look forward to and keep me busy.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : I'm out for the month - AF...

Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:32:37 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 23�September�2012 at 7:32am

I'm out for the month - AF arrived today

At least my cycle for last month was only 32 days, that is a BIG improvement on the 40+ days. The only pity, is that I'll be CD3 when we see FA - depending on what he'd have me do we might have to wait a cycle to start any medication.

I have my fingers crossed though that we get a BFP from you this week bugbug!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : well it could be still too early......

Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:52:00 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 19�September�2012 at 8:52pm

well it could be still too early... but yeah sucky when your body screws with you huh.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : lol, I did wonder bugbug - but...

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:20 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�September�2012 at 8:08pm

lol, I did wonder bugbug - but got a BFN this morning (on one of those expensive early tests), so I'm guessing it's nothing, just my body being screwy. It would just be typical though, to get UTD just before specialist appointment.

Was supposed to have second day 21 day test today (being CD28) but DD is sick and not sleeping so couldn't take her anywhere. Will have to do it tomorrow during my lunch hour (at work tomorrow).

Good luck with the rest of the 2ww bugbug - hope it goes quickly!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : yeah feeling ok here... just trying...

Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:51 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�September�2012 at 7:47pm

yeah feeling ok here... just trying to get through the boring 2 week wait, but nothing much happening - don't feel preggers or anything.

Do you think you may be pregnant ariel? just reading between the lines... be good if you are before you have your appointment and have to go through all that :). have you had results of your second day 21 test yet?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Ceres, how did your BT on Thursday...

Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:40:48 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 17�September�2012 at 10:40am

Ceres, how did your BT on Thursday go?

Bugbug, how are you feeling?

As for me, had a really busy weekend at a forum - was great fun too, but am exhausted and now DD is sick Have been feeling really really emotional over the past couple of days too - just little things make me tear up - and have also been having some spotting, which since having DD hasn't happened mid-cycle at all.

Have second Day 21 test tomorrow - hopefully DD is feeling a little better as I don't know what I'll do with her if she is feeling rotten.

Oh, and DH has provided his...ahem...sample....will try call and get results ahead of FA appointment next week.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Yay bugbug - have all my fingers...

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:52:54 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 13�September�2012 at 11:52am

Yay bugbug - have all my fingers crossed for you!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : ha, thanks frankie :) yes all...

Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:55:27 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 13�September�2012 at 10:55am

ha, thanks frankie :) yes all went to plan today and all 9.7mil swimmers got in there... and had accupuncture before appt. now at home relaxing and waiting for ovulation due about midday :)
if this doesn't work, then it really isn't going to happen... but we have a good shot

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : lurker in ooohhhh! good luck bugbug!!!...

Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:25:22 +0000

Author: frankie
Subject: 41705
Posted: 12�September�2012 at 8:25am

lurker in ooohhhh! good luck bugbug!!! Sounds very promising! lurker out

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : another scan today and they reckoned...

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:04:45 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 11�September�2012 at 9:04pm

another scan today and they reckoned only 3 follicles (which is fine!) but then really high bloods numbers (estrogen?) of 6000 so i think one follicle was missed today. (it was hiding the other day and hard to see). but anyway, all go for thurs. have triggered tonight. so fingers crossed... but a nice new job to look forward to just in case it doesn't work...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That is great news bugbug! Took...

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:28:21 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 11�September�2012 at 8:28am

That is great news bugbug!

Took my first iron pill yesterday (forgot the day before) - don't really feel any less tired today but not helped by DD waking a few times last night (she self-settled at least) and then she was awake just before 6am. She is back down in bed now - fingers crossed she has a little nap this morning!

FX for your blood test Ceres!

I have my first CD21 blood test today - will be interesting to get the results considering I was told my CD2 tests were normal (that was by the Family Planning Dr).

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Wow bugbug, crossing fingers tightly...

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:09:06 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 10�September�2012 at 8:09pm

Wow bugbug, crossing fingers tightly for you that you get to go ahead. That's a lot of follies on the right side to aim for! Twins anyone?!

Ariel I don't remember getting tired with weaning, but I've been having acupuncture weekly in prep for my FET and that has made a ginormous, oh-my-god 'I didn't even realise I was that tired' difference to my energy levels. And that's all about cycle correction. So my money is on PCOS. Have you thought about looking at acupuncture? Metformin definitely does help too, I think.

My next BT is Thursday. Cross fingers for me please that I've finally down regulated.

(ETA: Thanks A&CsMum )

Edited by Ceres - 10�September�2012 at 8:09pm

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Just want to say and hang in...

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:15:59 +0000

Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 41705
Posted: 10�September�2012 at 1:15am

Just want to say and hang in there, those elusive #2 babies do turn up (In our case the start of the fertility track might have done the trick)

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : yep all on the left... and when...

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:00:48 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�September�2012 at 9:00pm

yep all on the left... and when i say 'all', i mean ALL - all 4(!!!) of them.... but because of my age and the time spent trying, they have agreed to go ahead. well, at this stage they have - they aren't quite big enough yet, so another scan tuesday at this stage. they are 14 to 18mm currently. hopefully no more pop up and then they might cancel!

re the iron - i felt better by the next day - it was seriously pretty instant. there were other factors too that might have caused the tiredness, but i don't see too much harm staying on the pills for now.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : OMG bugbug, that does sound promising....

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:54:13 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 09�September�2012 at 3:54pm

OMG bugbug, that does sound promising.

Re: Energy levels - A friend has given me some of her prescription iron tablets (which she doesn't take anymore), so going to start taking them today. Another friend mentioned though, that when she weaned she got really tired for a month or so as her milk dried up - so I guess it could be that too. If the iron tablets don't seem to make a change then we'll know it's hormonal I guess (either weaning or PCOS). How long did it take for you to notice a difference in tiredness bugbug?

Bugbug, how many follies is too many? (as in, at what point will they cancel a cycle?) I hope you get just enough, oooo, and maybe get twins!

When is your next BT Ceres?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That sounds super promising bugbug,...

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:10:59 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 07�September�2012 at 10:10pm

That sounds super promising bugbug, good luck!! Last IUI for the win!!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : ps i'm pretty confident from...

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:03:06 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 07�September�2012 at 9:03pm

ps i'm pretty confident from the twinges, that i have follicles on my unblocked left side this month... i'm just hoping it's not too many (with taking extra pills this month!)

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : i kjnow what you mean about being...

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:37:22 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 07�September�2012 at 8:37pm

i kjnow what you mean about being around pregnant people. and yep - people having 2 babies in the time i've been trying to have 1... and still not succeeded!
ceres - sounds frustrating with all those blood tests. good luck with next lot of them...
yay for appt THIS month arielangel! that will fly by...
i too noticed really really bad tiredness about a week ago so have decided to take some iron tablets. it's made a huge difference in my energy (and i assume fine to take while ttcing?... FA doc said i didn't need it unless my iron is low, but i have no idea what iron reading is)
as for me, first blood test tomorrow (to fit into a crazy busy day) and am hoping scan will be sunday so i take minimum time off now i've handed in my notice...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Interesting point about energy...

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:16:24 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 07�September�2012 at 8:16am

Interesting point about energy levels Ceres - I have been feeling really really tired (wake up exhausted and feel drained all day) for the past month or so - I was wondering if it was iron levels or something, but perhaps it is because I've weaned and my hormones are going back to their PCOS normal.

And thanks for the advice about the metformin - I will definitely keep it in mind to bring up at the appointment.

Sucks that you are still not down regulated - hopefully this next week will do the trick!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That's great you've...

Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:40:44 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 06�September�2012 at 11:40am

That's great you've got an appointment sorted Ariel! I'd be very very surprised if the spec was reluctant to put you on clomid given your history of very long cycles and PCOS. I'd definitely fight for it, or metformin. I, personally, believe metformin can do magical things for PCOS; regulates your cycle to get you ovulating regularly on your own with a more normal cycle length, regulates blood sugars so energy levels are better, and lowers miscarriage risk too. I'd be asking whether it's an appropriate thing to go on to first if he doesn't want you to go on clomid immediately. And if it's combo'd with clomid then you're getting best of both worlds.

AFM, another BT yesterday and still not down regulated. So another week of jabs and a repeat BT.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Morning all, We have received...

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:32:15 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 05�September�2012 at 11:32am

Morning all,

We have received our appointment with FA, yay! It's on the 25th of September (it was a week earlier but I had to push it out to make sure we had all our test results in before the appointment).

If I have a 40-ish day cycle (like I've been having), then the appointment is CD35 which means if we can get the go ahead to do clomid then we can start the following cycle! We have John Hutton though, which from some research on the forums here at OB, seems he doesn't like to rush things, so he might very well tell us to keep trying another few cycles before we do any treatment.

I'm looking forward to having at least some kind of plan - hoping it's not wait and see though - that would be so frustrating!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Good to hear from you Ceres. Sucky...

Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:08:26 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 04�September�2012 at 9:08am

Good to hear from you Ceres. Sucky that your body can't behave itself, so frustrating! It's nice that you can find a positive though - if it comes to needles I might have to get some advice from you!

As for me, have just decided to start checking cervix (on advice of Family Planning Dr) to see if I can pinpoint ovulation - and of course last night I was pissy at DH so we didn't do anything and then this morning I check cervix and I think it's at it's fertile stage - doh!

On a positive, just had a guy in the office who was hard out flirting with me - nice ego boost

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Wow, congratulations bugbug! Well...

Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:01:17 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 03�September�2012 at 11:01am

Wow, congratulations bugbug! Well done on the new job! It sounds like you've made a really well reasoned decision that's totally right for you. You're right, planning around uncertainty is so so difficult. We are in the midst of that too, and it's hard to know whether to put your left or right foot out first. If only it was easy ..

Ariel, big hugs. I do know exactly what you mean. One of the mums that I went to a baby group with DD with, who had just had her first, is now pregnant with her third. Seriously. As happy as I am for her, it kind of makes you question 'why me' ..

AFM, my body has all its signals mixed. So jabby jabby for some time yet to try gain some control. I must be getting better though, haven't given myself a bruise in nearly three weeks. It's the small things ..

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Just have to rant for a sec -...

Mon, 03 Sep 2012 10:43:29 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 03�September�2012 at 10:43am

Just have to rant for a sec - but seems like everyone around me is getting pregnant at the moment! Went to a 2nd birthday party yesterday, at least six pregnant mums, and in the last few days have found out a mum in my antenatal coffee group is pregnant, and a third mum on a committee I'm on is pregnant (a mum who had previously said she only wanted one child).

I honestly think I might have to hide myself away for a couple of months - just catch up my mum friends who have trouble getting pregnant too and a few other close friends. I just don't want to be stressed and feeling hurt all the time being reminded that I'm still not pregnant - want to try and give the next few months the best chance!

On a positive note, belated happy birthday bugbug! I hope that you had a great day! And hope everyone enjoyed Fathers Day.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : yeah - jobs like this don't...

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:25:20 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 31�August�2012 at 9:25pm

yeah - jobs like this don't come along ever! and i was very lucky to get it, so i'm not giving it up for that small chance i might get pregnant, and then get stuck in my other job.
and yeah - knew i'd get 14 weeks, but i wanted a year off! They can fire you for any reason they want tho... but signed contract today (and turned 40 and started day 1).... so it's been a full on day, but i'm happy with everything :)

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Oh bugbug, that sucks! I knew...

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:46:06 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 30�August�2012 at 12:46pm

Oh bugbug, that sucks! I knew a woman who thought she'd stay in a job she didn't like because she was TTC, and she ended up being in that job for another five years!

I'm pretty sure they can't actually fire you for being pregnant, even with the 90 day trial thing they still should follow certain processes and I don't think they can discriminate. Of course, if they really wanted to get rid of you they would just make something up.

You still qualify for paid parental leave though, after being in a job for six months - so if this cycle is successful (fingers crossed!) at least you'll still get that.

The new job will hopefully keep you busy too, which will be a nice distraction!

And yes, totally understand the uncertainty - I had hoped to be well pregnant again by now and to a certain extent planned my life around that. Now, I just to try to plan for just having DD but have a contingency in place in case I do get pregnant.

Ok, better head off, DD is awake!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : arghh why is life never easy....

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:59:13 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 29�August�2012 at 9:59pm

arghh why is life never easy. i got myself a fab new job offer with a different company last night. i wish wish wish i could have finished my iui's first, but with the last cycle being delayed, i don't know whether i'll be pregnant starting my new job. (day 1 will prob be tomorrow and i still have a month in my current job).

and of course no year off if i haven't been in my job a year. plus 90 day trial - they could fire me for being pregnant if they really wanted, quite legally. but with a 5% chance of getting pregnant (and on my last shot), then i'm not giving up a great job, just for that small chance.
next issue - at same time as recieving my new contract today, i also get in the mail my letter confirming i'm on waiting list for laparoscopy and that its considered urgent so should happen within 6 months and i may get called up very last minute. argghh - so that could potentially happen a month or 2 into my new job.

but do i really want to give up this opportunity and not get pregnant either?

so yeah, deciding to risk it and will be accepting new job offer.... thanks for listening - hope you guys get this whole uncertainty and how it's really hard to plan our lives while this all goes on...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Oh Ceres, that sucks about the...

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:24:27 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 28�August�2012 at 4:24pm

Oh Ceres, that sucks about the scan. I hope your body gets it's A into G soon!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : You'll be fine with the serial...

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:44:55 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 28�August�2012 at 3:44pm

You'll be fine with the serial testing Ariel, just like anything - do it often enough and it becomes no biggie . In saying that, I hope you don't have to do too many of them before you pick up ovulation .

Good idea re clomid bugbug, I would have done the same, still hoping you have success with that last IUI though! A monitored cycle costs around $260 at the clinic I'm with Ariel, but they're cheaper than the likes of FA.

AFM, scan showed next to no endometrium lining (big shock horror, my body doing nothing at nearly CD30 haha). So just in the process of down regulating through daily buserelin jabs - still not down regulated so taking some time. Then will have to artificially build a lining before we can do a Pipelle. It's going to take some time, getting very used to the needles ..

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : How are you getting on Ceres?...

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:50:54 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�August�2012 at 9:50am

How are you getting on Ceres? Did your scan give you any answers?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That's great that you have...

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:50:01 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�August�2012 at 9:50am

That's great that you have a nice standard response bugbug - I guess they have their set procedures though which they like to follow (like monitoring), pity it makes you feel like a pincushion at times!

As for me, it was CD2 on Thursday, so went in for my blood test. DD was really good - let her run around the waiting room while we waited, and then put her in the stroller with some snacks while I had the test.

So now just waiting for CD21 and then will do serial progesterone (sp?) tests - so means a trip to get a blood test every five days, eek! I'm such a wuss with needles, have no idea how I would handle IVF!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : yes i'd certainly wait to...

Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:19:50 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 21�August�2012 at 5:19pm

yes i'd certainly wait to see what clomid does, at what dose. I know i'm pretty safe with 1 pill - pretty much produces 1 extra egg each month. in fact, it's so standard, i don't know why they make me monitor them....

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks bugbug. I saw on the FA...

Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:48:54 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 21�August�2012 at 8:48am

Thanks bugbug. I saw on the FA website it said Ovulation Induction was from $295 so thought maybe the $295 was unmonitored. I think we could afford $295 a month for a few months.

I know what you mean about the sneaky clomid cycles - have considered doing this myself but as I haven't taken clomid before I figure it's probably best to do some monitored cycles first to make sure I'm on the right dose and not overstimulating or anything else.

Tiny bit of pink spotting late last night and this morning. So frustrating, just wish AF would start properly so I could get moving!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : hi ariel. i've decided against...

Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:12:24 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 20�August�2012 at 7:12pm

hi ariel. i've decided against adoption etc. We will be fine with 1 and thank our lucky stars we have her, if that's what we end up with...
re the monitored cycle - our FA won't do unmonitored, however i might accidently have kept a stash of 3 mths pills which i might just accidently take my fist 3 cycles after finishing treatment! monitored cycles are $295 for us.
not sure re day 1 - i assume if no red bleeding, then don't count it?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Bugbug, I'm glad that the...

Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:34:42 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 20�August�2012 at 11:34am

Bugbug, I'm glad that the clinic are being flexible with you over your last funded IUI. Stink they didn't offer the laproscopy previously but at least you can get moving on that now.

It's a hard decision to stop trying, and I hope that you get another BFP before you have to make it. DH and I have agreed we'll keep trying until I'm 40, but sometimes I think I'll have a mental breakdown if it takes that long (I'm 31). I think I would give up conceiving myself well before then, and go for Homes for Life or Adoption to give DD a sibling - would either of those be an option for you?

As for me, I have had some brown spotting the last two days, but not sure when I should start CD1 from - I assumed it was the first day I wake up with red bleeding, is this what you guys would do? It doesn't usually matter but I have a CD2 blood test to do this cycle.

Also, I was wondering how much we would looking at paying for an unmonitored Clomid cycle or a monitored one? Might ask this in the CPP thread too. Would be nice to know approximate costs so I can prepare DH before our FA appointment.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : sorry to hear that ariel. hope...

Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:55:16 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 17�August�2012 at 7:55pm

sorry to hear that ariel. hope you find out when you ovulate with your tests - that would be nice to have some progress huh.
sorry too ceres that you have a waiting game also...
yay for being over the 12 week mark frankie.
as for me, i had my review today. nothing much more they can do after my next iui cycle as i'll be over 40 when it finishes. but i made the decision not to wait 18 mths for possible ivf when i cancelled the last cycle.
however i did manage to talk her into letting me take 2 clomid pills each day next cycle so more chance of having eggs on both sides, so that's a relief. and hopefully if i get 4 or more eggs they will still inseminate too - she has to clear it in their meeting, but looking good.
and i asked to go on hospital waiting list for laproscopy to unblock tube too - and that was fine. wish they'd offered me that 6 months ago as i'd be just about be called up by now. grrr. could be 6 to 12 months wait, but nice to know that option is there.
anyway sorry for the novel, but yeah i have a few options but coming to the end of the road for serious trying too...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : BFN for me, but was expected really,...

Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:32:05 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 16�August�2012 at 10:32am

BFN for me, but was expected really, especially given my cycles are usually 40+ days and today I'm only CD37. The doctor at Family Planning was so lovely, was there for over half an hour. She really won't do anything other than give me blood test forms and refer me to FA, and while I was hoping she might prescribe clomid for me, she was really nice and has given me lots of blood test forms. Just need to send DH in so they can give him his forms for testing (she wasn't keen on giving them to me).

Once she receives my medical records/previous test results from the hospital she has said she will put through a private referral to FA - apparently to get a public referral (and therefore free) she would have to refer me to the hospital first and an appointment there would be at least six months away.

Funnily enough, I'm actually looking forward to doing serial day 21 Progesterone tests - every five days from CD21 - will be nice to see if we can catch evidence of ovulation at some point.

That sucks bugbug that it was on the blocked side again, at least they let you swap out for a clomid only cycle - I have my fingers crossed that next month is the one for you!

And frankie, I don't mind if you still post in here - it's nice to see a success story! Have you had your twelve week scan yet?

Ceres, sucky that your body isn't doing it's thing - I hope that the scan can maybe give you some answers and you can get onto that FET.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Ariel hoping with all my might...

Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:10:38 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 15�August�2012 at 2:10pm

Ariel hoping with all my might for you with the POAS x. I so know what you know about travelling, though it's awesome to give them new experiences too I think. We recently did two nights away from DD so DH could do a competition run down the line and the second night was really hard for me. Would have much preferred her to be with us, even though it would have been harder. Can't win!

Bugbug @#$# argh! Frustrated on your behalf . That's good they're letting you do a clomid round though. Come on ovaries, behave next month .. do it!! Thinking of you x.

Thanks for checking in Frankie, it's always good to hear from you! Can't believe you're already 12 weeks!!

AFM, my body doesn't know wtf it's doing. Not cycling any more. I have a scan this afternoon to figure out where we're at (and no, not preggers - BT yesterday said no anything going on). So can't plan FET until we get a better picture of what's going on. Frustrating to the extreme. But not really a surprise that my body has done this. It likes to disappoint .

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Oh man that sucks bugbug great...

Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:40:05 +0000

Author: frankie
Subject: 41705
Posted: 14�August�2012 at 6:40pm

Oh man that sucks bugbug great that the clinic allowed you to do a clomid cycle rather than wasting another IUI.

Hope you get a nice surprise on Thursday Ariel and can cancel your appt!! If not then I hope they are able to help out.

Hope you guys don't mind me posting, I still check in here to see how you're getting on. Really hope I won't have to soon cos you'll all have your BFP's xxxxx

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : blocked side again for me :(...

Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:20:29 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 14�August�2012 at 6:20pm

blocked side again for me :( but managed to get them to let me pay for a clomid cycle so we can try the iui again next month. they won't let me do that again tho (i was lucky i needed no other drugs and stuff this month) so only 1 more shot... sigh.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : How are things going Ceres and...

Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:39:47 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 14�August�2012 at 10:39am

How are things going Ceres and bugbug?

As for me, just spent a few days away - it was quite hard work I must admit, so much harder travelling with an almost 1.5yr old than with a six month old (which is when we last travelled). It's so nice to be home and know that DD can just roam the house and can't really get into too much trouble.

Have my appointment with family planning on Thursday morning - looking forward to seeing if they can actually do anything for us. CD35 today, will probably POAS tomorrow before my appointment, but not really expecting any miracles.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : I have all my fingers and toes...

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:46:10 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 03�August�2012 at 6:46pm

I have all my fingers and toes crossed for you bugbug! This is your cycle!

As for me, had the best day today - just everything going right - all is good in the world and I was even happy I wasn't pregnant or breastfeeding so I could have a cider with a friend *happy sigh*

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : ok day 1 today. fingers crossed...

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:48:33 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 03�August�2012 at 4:48pm

ok day 1 today. fingers crossed for a left follicle or 2.

glad your bding isn't so much of a chore ariel :) I must admit, the thing i like best about iui day is just having to lie there and not do anything! things do get a bit of a chore sometimes :)

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Glad that you have got a plan...

Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:21:40 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 28�July�2012 at 12:21pm

Glad that you have got a plan going forward Ceres - when will they do the pipelle? How many frosties did you end up getting?

I'm currently cycle day 16/17 I think - BDing every second day, which hasn't been as much of a chore as I thought it would be - perhaps since weaning my hormones/libido are getting back to normal, yay!

TBH, I would probably consider any drugs if they might help. Have my appointment in a couple of weeks at the Family Planning Clinic - don't know if they will prescribe that type of thing but will check.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Thanks for checking in Ariel....

Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:52:22 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 26�July�2012 at 1:52pm

Thanks for checking in Ariel. The doctor thought that my being sick during the transfer/2WW *could* have affected things, but of course it's impossible to say with any certainty. We are looking at doing a pipelle (injury to endometrium) a month before we do a FET as evidence is coming out that it increases the odds of implantation by something like 2.5. Which is interesting, last time I got pregnant was the month following a lap - and anecdotally you do hear lots of women getting pregnant the month after some procedure. Now we just need to figure out the timing.

Sounds like a good plan with BDing every second day. Do you think you'd consider metformin? I know for me that turned me from totally anovulatory PCOS to 21 day cycles (still a massive problem in the form of a 7 day luteal phase, but an improvement none the less). I know at least two other previously anovulatory PCOS ladies who have started ovulating on their own with metformin. I personally think it's a pretty helpful drug. (You can't take it whilst BFing, but now it would be an option?)

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : How did it go today Ceres?

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:44:41 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 24�July�2012 at 4:44pm

How did it go today Ceres?

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Oh Ceres big hugs I've...

Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:32:06 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 23�July�2012 at 12:32pm

Oh Ceres *big hugs* I've been thinking of you.
I hope that the review on Tuesday can answer some questions and sucks that you were so sick at transfer and during the 2WW.

Glad transfer went well bugbug, but frustrating that it is on blocked side - I'll have my fx that you have some of those magic migrating eggs.

As for me, AF did play ball and got smear done - yay, three years til next one! Not that I find them that bad. The dr was really really lovely though, had DD with me and she was fine with her just playing around and getting into drawers etc.

I'm not even sure what CD I'm on now though. Even though I don't have the "mood" for it, I'm considering trying to BD every day from CD13 to CD30 so that if I ovulate like a "normal" person, then I should hopefully catch it (I think I worked out I ovulated on CD26 with DD). I know the advice is every second day, but I also know that the first cycle after weaning can be a good fertile one and I guess I'd like to make the most of it.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : That's super frustrating...

Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:14:53 +0000

Author: Ceres
Subject: 41705
Posted: 22�July�2012 at 9:14pm

That's super frustrating bugbug. I feel for you badly. What a stupid system that forces you to essentially waste your time (and public money) when you know you're better off waiting for the follies to be on the correct side. Sigh. I'm sending lots and lots of luck for a miracle anyway x.

Hoping AF played ball Ariel and you got to have your smear done. I have heard so many stories of weaning and then a BFP the next month. Crossing fingers for you!

As for us, it didn't work. BFN. Have spent the weekend processing it. It isn't easy. We have our review on Tuesday to see where to from here. I can't help but think being so ill at embryo transfer time, and for the 2WW, can't have helped our chances (I had some nasty virus, knocked me for six!). Will be querying that too.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : ariel, i have to book my smear...

Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:34:04 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 19�July�2012 at 1:34pm

ariel, i have to book my smear for in between end of this cycle and implantation next cycle too - tried to get it last weekend but they cancelled the clinic that day. FA need it for their files apparently (it's been just on 3 years)
had transfer today - all went super-well ... i'm just not holding out much hope. it seems backwards when the govt gives me funding due to having a blocked tube, but then they implant me over and ovr again when everything is on blocked side. anyway thats my rant...

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Hi all, That sucks bugbug about...

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:18:50 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 18�July�2012 at 1:18pm

Hi all,

That sucks bugbug about it being the wrong side again - fx that it is the right side next month! Good luck for your transfer tomorrow anyway.

As for me, just ticking away really - can't tell you exactly what CD I am (maybe CD7?) - just waiting for the final stages of AF to finish so I can hopefully have my smear on Friday. It was due a few months ago but then I had that massively long cycle so wanted to wait for AF again, so finally getting it done now. Otherwise, I'm just hoping that maybe we get a miracle this month being the first cycle since I weaned.

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : oh Bugbug that sucks, too unfair...

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:10:05 +0000

Author: frankie
Subject: 41705
Posted: 16�July�2012 at 11:10am

oh Bugbug that sucks, too unfair that it's not working out as it should 2 months in a row. Hope time goes really fast for you and next month is the left side, I still can't fathom why they go ahead with the IUI's on the blocked side, stupid public health system!

That's great you have an appointment Ariel, hopefully you won't need it (cos you get a nice surprise in the meantime!). It's great that you and DH have got some other plans on the go too, always good to have other stuff in life to look forward to/aim toward I reckon. Sorry to hear you're still having rough nights with your DD.

Mel I love the name Riley too, thinking of you x

Ceres wishing away the days so that you get your results soon, so hoping for a BFP for you!

Not much happening for me, I've got my NT scan booked for the 3rd of August, so hanging out for that!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : hi all, sorry been a bit missing...

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:33:08 +0000

Author: bugbug
Subject: 41705
Posted: 16�July�2012 at 10:33am

hi all, sorry been a bit missing in action with everything so crazy busy. mel - been thinking of you and it's lovely you named the baby.
Had my first scan of this month today - but yet again it's another month down the tubes as everything is on the blocked side again. that leaves one month left of a funded cycle so a long wait until that all comes about. a month of waiting...My transfer is on thurs this week - going to be such a pain getting time off work again when it seems pointless. anyway can't dwell on it, and hopefully with 2 right side ovulates in a row, it will have to be the left side for my last month - surely... hoping!

TTC # 2 after fertility issues with # 1 : Yay Ceres on having one embryo...

Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:22:50 +0000

Author: ArielAngel
Subject: 41705
Posted: 15�July�2012 at 1:22pm

Yay Ceres on having one embryo transferred, do you have any frosties?

As for me, have booked an appointment at Family Planning for mid-August - it was the earliest time that suited both me and the clinic (being that they don't have doctors on every day, and one of their doctors is going away, and then I'm going away).

I'm ok with waiting a month though as the last few weeks with DD being so sick, and then her sleeping at night just being terrible, I'm actually feeling glad we don't have another one - I don't know how I'd cope if I had to be up to two children in the night and one of them being a newborn (although I guess you just get on with it).

DH and I had a great talk the other night about what we want to do over the next few years, and whether we try to factor in another baby - it was really nice to nut things out and get a plan in place for the next three years (which is move house and work on building the business up so we can sell it). We had been talking about me maybe going back to work so we can buy a nicer house, but have decided that if we get pregnant it will be too hard, so for now we'll have a sideways move house wise (which means somewhere a bit more run-down but with a bigger section and a garage).

Phew, sorry for the novel about me!

Frankie, yay for being over two thirds of the way to 12 weeks!

MelW - hope you are ok, love the name Riley also.