OHbaby! Forums : Problems with Sippy Cup https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 23:47:22 +0000 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:54:16 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.10 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=34743 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Yes if you are allergic to cows...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1104363&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1104363 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 6:54pm

Yes if you are allergic to cows milk protein everything is not good.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:54:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1104363&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1104363 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Lol Bizzy- you probably could...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1104102&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1104102 Author: Kellz
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 2:55pm

Lol Bizzy- you probably could if its made with water!]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:55:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1104102&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1104102 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lol was just chuckling to myself...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103951&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103951 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 1:30pm

lol was just chuckling to myself and thinking but dont put custard in the sippy cup! ]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:30:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103951&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103951 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Re: the heating milk thing, if...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103921&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103921 Author: blondy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 1:16pm

Re: the heating milk thing, if you heat milk enough (as in boil it ) you can cause some of the milk proteins to denature, so they may escape past the immune system without a reaction if you are allergic to them. But it doesn't always work that way!

AFAIK, niether cheese nor yoghurt is heated so people that are allergic to milk rather than have lactose intolerance still won't be ok with cheese or yoghurt.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:16:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103921&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103921 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : The proteins in milk stay the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103897&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103897 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 1:09pm

The proteins in milk stay the same regardless of the form they are in whether it be cheese, blue top milk, whey in protein drinks, milk solids in milo.

Cheese & yoghurt in their processing changes the lactose in milk.

So if your child is lactose intolerant they are more likely to be able to have cheeses & yoghurts, possibly in limited amounts depending on their tolerance levels. I'm not sure about custards.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:09:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103897&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103897 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Newly wed- I sure was typing one...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103829&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103829 Author: RedHeadDuck
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 12:37pm

Newly wed- I sure was typing one handed lol! DS cluster feeds, and sleeps from about 11-4 (or 12-5 last night as the case may be) so I'm up pretty late, but worth it for 5 hours straight

And yes, feeling like a dairy cow Said to FIL the other night he may as well put me on the rotary and milk me too....

But I'm still confused about the heating thing, I really feel like I'm missing a link here... Lol. ]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:37:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103829&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103829 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Milk of some sort will provide...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103750&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103750 Author: Kellz
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 11:56am

Milk of some sort will provide a serve of protein - otherwise the custard is just maize startch with added colour and flavour and not much nutritional value!]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:56:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103750&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103750 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : If you don&#039;t want to use...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103529&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103529 Author: MamaT
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 9:37am

If you don't want to use breastmilk I would personally just stick to water. They don't know what it tastes like with milk so won't know the difference]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:37:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103529&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103529 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : what about Kellz suggestion of...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103524&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103524 Author: clover
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 9:32am

what about Kellz suggestion of using rice or soy milk?]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:32:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103524&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103524 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote:Really? Is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103498&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103498 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 9:15am

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Really? Is it yuck?


Well for me personally its probably nicer than having custard made with another womans breastmilk!

However I digress ... I dont like anything milk based, so to me it tastes fine ..]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:15:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103498&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103498 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Really? Is it yuck? ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103477&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103477 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:56am

Really? Is it yuck?]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:56:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103477&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103477 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : You can actually make custard...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103463&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103463 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:44am

You can actually make custard with water if its the milk you are trying to rule out.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:44:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103463&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103463 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I just checked the label on a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103460&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103460 Author: Kellz
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:42am

I just checked the label on a box of pams custard powder- its made of maize starch, flavour and colourings. Has no cows milk, so u could just make it up with breast milk like MissCheeky suggested, or soy or rice milk if u dont want to use cows milk.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:42:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103460&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103460 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : LF I dont know which custard is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103449&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103449 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:38am

LF I dont know which custard is ok beyond the baby jars which I don't buy.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:38:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103449&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103449 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : You could just express and use...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103441&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103441 Author: Guests
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:34am

You could just express and use EBM in the custard ]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:34:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103441&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103441 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : But stage one food includes custard...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103431&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103431 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 20 July 2010 at 8:29am

But stage one food includes custard so it would seem strange to NOT have custard but want to go with cheese and yoghurt that are not included in stage one food.]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:29:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103431&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103431 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Haha that it has ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103359&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103359 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:36pm

Haha that it has ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:36:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103359&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103359 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : No worries the thread has truly...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103354&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103354 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:28pm

No worries the thread has truly evolved and gone on for ages ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:28:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103354&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103354 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Ah ok, sorry my bad... I didnt...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103349&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103349 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:04pm

Ah ok, sorry my bad... I didnt read back far enough ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:04:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103349&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103349 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : WG - a few pages back it was something...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103348&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103348 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:02pm

WG - a few pages back it was something to do with the bacteria breaking down the lactose (so you can scroll back for details). The only thing I'm not sure about is which custard is ok.]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:02:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103348&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103348 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lol MooCow Is cheese, yoghurt...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103346&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103346 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:01pm

lol MooCow

Is cheese, yoghurt and other similar dairy products because its a 'soft' dairy product or stage 1 if you like and easier to digest? Hence why its ok to give before cows milk?]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:01:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103346&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103346 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Wow - you are doing well to be...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103345&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103345 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 11:00pm

Wow - you are doing well to be on OB at all MooCow - especially at 11pm!!!!! Are you breastfeeding and typing with one hand? Are you feeling like a Moocow yet (ie. milk factory) lol

I'm still miffed about it and waiting for someone more knowledgeable to inform me

Edited by newlywed]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:00:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103345&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103345 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Isn&#039;t it cos they are heated...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103336&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103336 Author: RedHeadDuck
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 10:49pm

Isn't it cos they are heated up, so the bacteria is changed doing something to the lactose..?

Which confuses me, cos pasteurised milk is heated up... Ya know, the pasteurising part!? So how come milks so different to cheese/yoghurt..?

Or are both DH and I totally missing some fact here? (hell, don't ask me, sprog is only 3 weeks old lol)]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:49:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103336&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103336 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : What I&#039;ve been told is that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103313&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103313 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 10:13pm

What I've been told is that they're fine though - apparently earlier posters mentioned that the bacteria in them do something (break down?) the lactose in it. I assume custard is the same but I'm not sure which custard does that.]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:13:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103313&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103313 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Peanut wrote: lilfatty wrote:You...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103266&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103266 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 9:37pm

Originally posted by Peanut Peanut wrote:

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

You do realise that yoghurt and cheese are mostly milk dont you?


Are you sure?


You made me wonder .... (especially since I dont eat either), but yes im pretty sure they are milk based. ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:37:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103266&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103266 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lilfatty wrote:You do realise...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103262&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103262 Author: Peanut
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 9:36pm

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

You do realise that yoghurt and cheese are mostly milk dont you?


Are you sure?]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:36:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103262&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103262 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : You do realise that yoghurt and...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103244&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103244 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 9:25pm

You do realise that yoghurt and cheese are mostly milk dont you? ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:25:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103244&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103244 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I don&#039;t really feel comfortable...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103177&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103177 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 8:53pm

I don't really feel comfortable giving him milk in things even though he's having yoghurt and cheese. I might hold off on custard...]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:53:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103177&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103177 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I already put normal cows milk...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103125&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103125 Author: Mum_mum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 8:30pm

I already put normal cows milk on Maddi's cereal and so now just give her the normal powder custard that I make up. I did start her on the baby custard from watties but pretty sure that has milk in it aswell.

]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:30:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103125&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103125 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Newlywed, I made custard using...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103104&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103104 Author: kellie
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 8:20pm

Newlywed, I made custard using seameal powder and formula at that age. ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:20:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1103104&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1103104 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : mummy_becks wrote:Sorry I am...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102861&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102861 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 4:29pm

Originally posted by mummy_becks mummy_becks wrote:

Sorry I am going to thread-jack, but newlywed are you a nurse at Starship that deals with CAT scans and the like of that. If you are I would love to talk to you about that.



I don't work as a nurse in Starship anymore. And the only info I can give on Cat Scans is that there seem to be two - one is private that you pay for and one is public. But you're welcome to ask me anything else and if I know the answer I'll tell you!

Hannahbil: I agree. I personally feel pretty proud of what I've achieved and fought for so far. But we're planning to TTC when DS is 12mths old and I think DH would like my boobs back too (sorry TMI) Not to mention my other reasons I stated earlier!

Yes, I don't know how much milk he will need - he loves cheese and yoghurt and I know he'll like custard (I haven't given it to him yet - I'm not sure which custard is ok.... just the baby jars or also custard powder with milk in it or vanilla custard from a packet that you buy already mixed?)


Edited by newlywed]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:29:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102861&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102861 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : My DD really liked the nuby cups...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102662&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102662 Author: Mum_mum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 2:23pm

My DD really liked the nuby cups with the soft spouts and it didnt take her long to figure it out. At first she sort of chewed them and the water would come out bu now she sucks and we have also just brought her a cheap Dinkee cup with the straw!

I do understand though about the wanting to wean at 12 months (I too want to do that and although people may think Im selfish, well I would have given more than 14 months up to someone else and would like a few months to myself before I give myself to another little being again!)

Not getting at anyone, but I feel there isn't much support for those wanting to wean, or info about how we should go about weaning. I have no idea if I am meant to replace my BF with another type of milk for the health of my kid or do I not replace it with anything if she is eating enough cheese/yougart and milk on cereal?

Although in saying that, my wee one might have other plans for me in giving up the night feed ]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:23:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102662&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102662 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Sorry I am going to thread-jack,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102362&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102362 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 34743
Posted: 19 July 2010 at 9:57am

Sorry I am going to thread-jack, but newlywed are you a nurse at Starship that deals with CAT scans and the like of that. If you are I would love to talk to you about that.

]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:57:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102362&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102362 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I changed my Plunket nurse. She...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102034&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102034 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 18 July 2010 at 7:50pm

I changed my Plunket nurse. She had a poker face and was very hard to relate to and didn't seem interested in my baby. The one I saw the other day was lovely and helpful and interested in her job. To be honest I thought it was quite comical talking to the first one about PND - she looked as depressed as anything!!!]]> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:50:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1102034&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1102034 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I had trouble with Plunket as...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101588&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101588 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 18 July 2010 at 8:22am

I had trouble with Plunket as well - after a lengthy fight just to get a nurse to visit us, they were no help with sleep issues and when Cuinn was down to feeding every hour around the clock, they still came down on me really hard for trying to top him up with solids (it was through his 4th and 5th month). I could hardly stand up I was so exhausted! They had no solution for me at all, except give him a formula top up (he wouldn't take a bottle, or any other form of milk) and no solids    We got through though, with a little bit of ignoring them ]]> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:22:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101588&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101588 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I don&#039;t know anything about...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101559&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101559 Author: Nutella
Subject: 34743
Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:02am

I don't know anything about Plunket but certainly all the BF literature we have over here is to BF til they are a year at least and preferably to 2, and that they should not start solids til they are 6 months. But then the midwives/baby nurses it all varies what they say and it is probably based on what generation they grew up in ya know.]]> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:02:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101559&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101559 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : My Plunket nurse rocks as well. I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101556&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101556 Author: minik8e
Subject: 34743
Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:35am

My Plunket nurse rocks as well.

I don't trust some of the others though....an earlier one I had, growled me and said I wasn't feeding them girls enough (I was feeding 4 hourly instead of 3 hourly, as I had to wake them for feeds, and at 3 hourly they wouldn't feed properly). In the next breath, she told me how fantastically I was doing as Amber had put on 600g in 2 weeks. Yeah, she was really a starving baby. ]]> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:35:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101556&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101556 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : melnel wrote:Most people with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101541&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101541 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 11:05pm

Originally posted by melnel melnel wrote:

Most people with "normal" children dont have issues with Plunket.. its those that dare to fall outside their "normal" ideals that tend to have issues.


Thriving under Fives....they like the ones that thrive

but in saying that my Plunket nurse is awesome...tis the others that are not.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:05:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101541&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101541 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Could it be that your sippy cup...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101535&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101535 Author: High9
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 10:56pm

Could it be that your sippy cup atm doesn't get the milk or whatever you put in it out fast enough so he doesn't like it?

I would try a straw one, and also had advice from a dentist that drinking from a straw is a lot better than drinking from a cup as the fluid usually misses your teeth iygwim. But maybe that's irrelevant! ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:56:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101535&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101535 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lilfatty wrote:Thankfully once...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101531&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101531 Author: Peanut
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 10:45pm

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

Thankfully once you get to baby number two they back off because they figure you know what you are doing because youve managed not to kill the first one.


Love it and sooo true!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:45:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101531&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101531 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Nah .. I have issues with plunket...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101527&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101527 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 10:39pm

Nah .. I have issues with plunket too .. my kids are actually "advanced" by Plunket standards, but the way they "teach" new mothers to get their kids to sleep just did my head in.

Thankfully once you get to baby number two they back off because they figure you know what you are doing because youve managed not to kill the first one. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:39:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101527&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101527 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Oh I agree with the thing about...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101523&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101523 Author: mummyofprinces
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 10:33pm

Oh I agree with the thing about GP's too.. mine is useless but lovely... I only take Jake there for basic stuff otherwise its straight to the paed.

Most people with "normal" children dont have issues with Plunket.. its those that dare to fall outside their "normal" ideals that tend to have issues.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:33:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101523&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101523 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Yeah I hear you on the Plunket...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101486&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101486 Author: MamaT
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 9:48pm

Yeah I hear you on the Plunket thing. They can be so contradictory. I really do tend to take what they say with a grain of salt and use what works for me and my family.

For instance a couple of weeks ago I had a weight check. The plunket nurse in one breath commended me for continuing exclusively BF and then 5 sec later told me I 'Had" to introduce solids straight away. I'm just glad I'm doing BLW and trusting him and myself, as I still believe he isn't ready and if I was doing purees things would be a lot different.

 

Anyway, I guess it really comes down to doing what you feel is right. As long as you have your childs best interests at heart you really can't go wrong.

]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:48:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101486&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101486 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I think we have trust or lack...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101483&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101483 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 9:40pm

I think we have trust or lack of trust depending on our experience. My experience of Plunket is very good whereas my trust in GPs is very poor because of the fact that I have worked so closely with them and seen so many bad calls that have resulted in serious consequences. So I can see where you are coming from in terms of your own experience. And I believe in a mixture of expertise and your own intuition as mentioned before.

Wow - this topic has definitely evolved!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:40:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101483&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101483 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : We had such a hard time with Jake.....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101464&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101464 Author: mummyofprinces
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 9:09pm

We had such a hard time with Jake.. he refused to drink water out of anything but we ALWAYS drink out of pump bottles and one day he picked up an empty one off the floor (he was playing with it) and put it to his mouth.. I put a little water in it and he drank it! SCORE.

He now will drink out of anything we give him.. once he got the hang of it (except straw cups.. he keeps tipping them up like a cup and of course nothing comes out).

Not wanting to "gang up on you" but I just had to add (more others who may read this then you) that Plunket are not gospel!

I have been referred to GP/Paed at EVERY appt to be told by my Paed that my son is FINE! I have been caused much stress (unneccessarily) at my "failure to thrive" baby...

And funnily enough my Plunket nurse commended me on bf past one as its the WHO guidelines so I guess much like other Nurses.. not everyone has the same knowledge....

Sorry I am just very passionate about mothers trusting their instincts rather than relying on "experitise" of Plunket as in my experience they so often get it so wrong.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:09:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101464&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101464 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I. misscheeky wrote: newlywed...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101461&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101461 Author: Guests
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 9:04pm

I.
Originally posted by misscheeky misscheeky wrote:

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

My understanding is they don't actually need breastmilk past 12mths. I wonder if they are delaying it (WHO) till 2yo because they have suggested delaying cows milk as long as possible?


I am curious , although weaning your child is your choice you are going to be weaning him onto cows milk. So instead of giving him the milk that is specifically desgned to be perfect for him and his nutritional needs you'll be giving him an inferior substitute which comes from an animal.

And by doing so are saying he still needs milk past 12 months but not the one thats perfect for him.

Just another way to look at it

ETA

DD much preferred to drink her water out straw cup and she has a Pump bottle now.


Oops the first sentence of my post was supposed to read " I am curious where you got your information from"
That'll learn me for not spell checking

ETA Spelling

Edited by misscheeky]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:04:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101461&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101461 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : DD had a Pigeon MagMag cup (I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101459&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101459 Author: BeLoved
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:59pm

DD had a Pigeon MagMag cup (I think thats what they are called) she was always happy to drink out of the stage 2 top that they have for it. You can get them at PaknSave or BabyCity, and they have a straw top that you can get for them too, she still use the straw top one now. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:59:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101459&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101459 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : That&#039;s more or less why I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101457&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101457 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:58pm

That's more or less why I weaned Babe - aside from not liking BF at all (I know, not the done thing to admit to!), we're doing a FER this month, and the clinic required me to have no been BFing for at least a couple of months prior to the cycle. It was all the excuse I needed to get over the residual guilt!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:58:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101457&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101457 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Jake had the straw cup - he hated...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101452&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101452 Author: Babe
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:53pm

Jake had the straw cup - he hated the sippy cups.

I'm planning on weaning at around 12 months but thats coz I'm gonna be TTC#3 next year and I want my body to myself for awhile. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:53:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101452&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101452 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : fattartsrock wrote: ginger...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101447&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101447 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:48pm

Originally posted by fattartsrock fattartsrock wrote:

Originally posted by ginger ginger wrote:

Is it to do with the milk in foods being cooked as opposed to cows milk being given possibly straight out of the fridge or whatever?

Funny, isn't it, how allergies are such an issue these days? I don't ever remember there ever being such awareness historically.


yep cooking/pasturising changes the protien strain, so often times, even a child with a reaction/allergy to milk can still have cheese and yoghurt. Not all, but some/most.

An yeah about the allergy thing, I am allergic to eggs and I remember it was SUCH a big thing becasue no one else we knew had an allergy! Now its almost commonplace to have an allergy of soem type. Sucks though.


Wow, thanks, this is quite interesting to know. Am tempted to give C a custard before monday (paed) so I can show reaction to ingested dairy.

I think it's in part to awareness & research. I was child riddled with ezcema yet Mum never removed anything from my diet, you just lived with it. Now I am group 1, skin pricked allergic to a bunch of things including dairy, C hasn't skin pricked & I'm hoping that with my awareness this means he can grow out of it.

Sorry to thread jack NW. - ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:48:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101447&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101447 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I would the pump bottle. My watches...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101442&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101442 Author: MamaT
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:45pm

I would the pump bottle. My watches me drink from it and a few weeks ago started reaching out for it so I let him have a play and he managed to get some in his mouth (and then proceeded to let it run down his chin). But, at 5 months he had figured out the process needed.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:45:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101442&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101442 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Ditto - I went last night - what...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101431&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101431 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:32pm

Ditto - I went last night - what a treat! DH is home with the choccy ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:32:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101431&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101431 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : fattartsrock wrote:Right Im...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101417&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101417 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:25pm

Originally posted by fattartsrock fattartsrock wrote:

Right Im off to the movies now, so play nice ladies!


Enjoy!! ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:25:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101417&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101417 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : or I could be wrong and its about...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101413&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101413 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:17pm

or I could be wrong and its about the bacteria. lol. Right Im off to the movies now, so play nice ladies!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:17:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101413&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101413 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : ginger wrote:Is it to do with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101412&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101412 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:16pm

Originally posted by ginger ginger wrote:

Is it to do with the milk in foods being cooked as opposed to cows milk being given possibly straight out of the fridge or whatever?

Funny, isn't it, how allergies are such an issue these days? I don't ever remember there ever being such awareness historically.


yep cooking/pasturising changes the protien strain, so often times, even a child with a reaction/allergy to milk can still have cheese and yoghurt. Not all, but some/most.

An yeah about the allergy thing, I am allergic to eggs and I remember it was SUCH a big thing becasue no one else we knew had an allergy! Now its almost commonplace to have an allergy of soem type. Sucks though.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:16:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101412&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101412 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote:Ginger: just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101411&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101411 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:16pm

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Ginger: just curious - you are "Moderator Group" on your profile there. What does that mean?


It means I have the ability to moderate within the forums (limited to one or only a couple of sections), but truth be told, it's something I was given for a particular reason a number of years ago and it just need to remind admin to revoke it. I keep forgetting it's there. I should really flick Ang an email now.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:16:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101411&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101411 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I asked this question to my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101406&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101406 Author: millymollymandy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:14pm

I asked this question to my chemist DH. The issue with milk vs yohurt, cheese is that the bacteria in these products breaks down the lactose. Lactose intolerence is what can cause allergies.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:14:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101406&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101406 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I think that&#039;s really all...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101405&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101405 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:14pm

I think that's really all you can do as a parent, isn't it? Your best. When it comes down to it, you're the very best parent(s) that your child has. Things that don't feel right to me get filed in the a*svice section of my holey memory ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:14:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101405&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101405 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Ginger: just curious - you are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101402&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101402 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:12pm

Ginger: just curious - you are "Moderator Group" on your profile there. What does that mean?]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:12:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101402&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101402 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Ginger good question - I&#039;ve...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101400&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101400 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:11pm

Ginger good question - I've got no idea, I just follow along believing I'm doing the best for my baby

Yes - they have recently introduced some things earlier than a year ago because there seems to be disagreement out there about whether introducing it too late could also cause allergies. So I just use it as a guideline and do what I feel comfortable with.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:11:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101400&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101400 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Is it to do with the milk in foods...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101397&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101397 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:08pm

Is it to do with the milk in foods being cooked as opposed to cows milk being given possibly straight out of the fridge or whatever?

Funny, isn't it, how allergies are such an issue these days? I don't ever remember there ever being such awareness historically.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:08:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101397&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101397 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : AandCsmum wrote: newlywed...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101395&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101395 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:04pm

Originally posted by AandCsmum AandCsmum wrote:

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Well Plunket said to me that they are starting to recommend that cows milk for drinking is delayed as long as possible, eg. 2yrs due to allergies.


That is fine, but what about dairy products in baby food? Ie custards, baby muesli...No point in delaying drinking milk if you are feeding it to them in their solid meal.


Well apparently - according to Plunket - there is a big difference in drinking milk and eating dairy products. They say to delay drinking milk till at least 12mths but dairy products such as custard, yoghurt are fine from around 7mths!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:04:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101395&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101395 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : AandCsmum wrote:How about just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101392&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101392 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:02pm

Originally posted by AandCsmum AandCsmum wrote:

How about just making his meals quite runny, then he's still getting fluids, give him bottles, cups etc to play with & he's learn what he wants to drink out of.


That's pretty much how we came to what we came to - I think we had about 4 or 5 different types of tops, as well as plain cups and I gauged how heavy his nappies were in relation to what he was drinking out of, and from there came to realise that the sipper top was working best, and was the one he preferred and then just biffed the rest!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:02:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101392&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101392 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : freckle wrote:Newlywed - I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101391&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101391 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:02pm

Originally posted by freckle freckle wrote:

Newlywed - I found those cheap as sippy cups from the supermarket did the job just fine...

... IMO I wouldn't expect a nurse to know every guideline esp if you aren't actually a plunket nurse... there is no way I know everything that is considered best practise in my line of work (without looking it up), which is much narrower than nursing...


Yeah, a lot of the time people expect nurses to know every single aspect of health but don't realise that it is a huge subject and you couldn't possibly. I learnt quite a bit about health with respect to children when I relieved at Plunket and worked at Starship and as a Practice Nurse for a GP but unless you specialize in one area, even then there's still so much to learn and things change even in the space of a year - they change their minds about best practice guidelines constantly!

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:02:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101391&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101391 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote:I&#039;m using...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101389&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101389 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 8:00pm

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

I'm using cheap sippy cups with three holes in it. I mentioned in an earlier post that he's not interested in taking water from a bottle either.


How about just making his meals quite runny, then he's still getting fluids, give him bottles, cups etc to play with & he's learn what he wants to drink out of.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:00:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101389&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101389 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Newlywed - I found those cheap...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101388&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101388 Author: freckle
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:59pm

Newlywed - I found those cheap as sippy cups from the supermarket did the job just fine...

... IMO I wouldn't expect a nurse to know every guideline esp if you aren't actually a plunket nurse... there is no way I know everything that is considered best practise in my line of work (without looking it up), which is much narrower than nursing... ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:59:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101388&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101388 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I&#039;m using cheap sippy cups...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101386&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101386 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:57pm

I'm using cheap sippy cups with three holes in it. I mentioned in an earlier post that he's not interested in taking water from a bottle either. I think I have an idea about what I will try with regards to getting milk/water into him especially as he's young and it's early days - so thanks, I have all the advice I need.

Bizzy - I have worked in Starship for about a year. The WHO guidelines on how long one should breastfeed had nothing to do with Neurological or Neurosurgical problems of an infant or child - or in fact any medical illness. It's probably more a general fact nurses may know - particularly Plunket nurses.

I still think WHO guidelines are taking into consideration developing nations in their guidelines with breastfeeding.

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:57:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101386&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101386 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote:Well Plunket...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101385&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101385 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:55pm

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Well Plunket said to me that they are starting to recommend that cows milk for drinking is delayed as long as possible, eg. 2yrs due to allergies.


That is fine, but what about dairy products in baby food? Ie custards, baby muesli...No point in delaying drinking milk if you are feeding it to them in their solid meal.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:55:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101385&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101385 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Can I ask why you don&#039;t try...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101383&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101383 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:52pm

Can I ask why you don't try a normal bottle???

But if you use the pump bottle in front of him he'll work it out, just make sure you don't have it open fully when you give it to him to drink.

Also if you are using the suction sippy cups it might be to hard for him to suck from. Try those cheap ones with the three holes.

Also on the nutrition of breast milk, I saw a dietician this week & she told me at this stage breast milk still has enough nutrition for my 18 month old and beyond even though I feel that it doesn't.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:52:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101383&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101383 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : it was genuine surprise - as ginger...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101381&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101381 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:49pm

it was genuine surprise - as ginger pointed out the WHO guidelines re breastfeeding are in the news a lot lately and it is also mentioned on a certain formulas adverts...

just surprise - mind you i might be more surprised if you were a paediatric nurse.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:49:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101381&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101381 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : The same could be said about you....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101380&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101380 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:48pm

The same could be said about you.

Edited by caliandjack]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:48:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101380&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101380 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : It sounded like it. If not a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101376&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101376 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:45pm

It sounded like it. If not a personal attack - an attack on me as a nurse. I am SOOOOO sick of it.

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:45:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101376&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101376 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote: Bizzy wrote: ...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101375&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101375 Author: ginger
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:44pm

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

i'm surprised a registered nurse wasnt more aware of the WHO guidelines.

i have a collection of sippy cups in my cupboard that dont get used any more... my fave was the cheap ones from the supermarket. and as someone else said they all loved to drink water from my pump bottle.



Have you got it in for me tonight or something?


No, i was genuinely surprised! i guess i kind of expect nurses to know stuff related to health!

edited to fix the quote thingy.


Well I don't hang out on the WHO website in my spare time.


Ah newlywed, I'm speaking for Bizzy, and she may well be sticking pins into somelkind of cursed doll with your name on it but I suspect that she's surprised and concerned that something that as a medical professional, you weren't aware/had different information in relation to something that's had quite a bit of focus one way or another recently (the WHO recommendations re breastfeeding). It's not a personal attack.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:44:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101375&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101375 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : caliandjack wrote:I don&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101371&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101371 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:41pm

Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

I don't think anyone is trying to pick on you newlywed, in your OP, you said you were wanting to get down to no feeds and which sippy cup to use.

Which are two different things really. Hope you find a solution that works for you.


Cali when women wean their babies from breastfeeding, obviously their baby has to take milk/water from another source which was why I was talking about how I was going to get it into him when at the moment he's not interested in the sippy cup. I think everyone understood.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:41:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101371&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101371 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : i think youve had lots of advice...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101369&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101369 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:39pm

i think youve had lots of advice about sippy cups...


i think the main thing to remember is just keep giving them the opportunity. one of my boys i despaired would never get it cause he always spat the water out... you have plenty time for him to ge the hang of it. wait till the day he borrows your sipper bottle and you find floaties in it! eeew yuck! i honestly dont know how that stuff can get past those little valves. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:39:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101369&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101369 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I know. I think Ive bashed the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101367&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101367 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:38pm

I know. I think Ive bashed the who code on them all so many times in the last god knows how long, they're doing my job for me now!

I don't think anyone means to offend you, though, although it might not seem that way. Its hard to gauge sometimes on line what tone/intention, plus if its people you don't normally talk to, you might not know thier style, maybe?

Anyhow, hope you've got some good idea re the sippy cup.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:38:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101367&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101367 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I don&#039;t think anyone is trying...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101366&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101366 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:38pm

I don't think anyone is trying to pick on you newlywed, in your OP, you said you were wanting to get down to no feeds and which sippy cup to use.

Which are two different things really. Hope you find a solution that works for you. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:38:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101366&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101366 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Well you are doing a pretty good...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101362&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101362 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:34pm

Well you are doing a pretty good job fattarts I don't feel offended by anything of what you've said but I honestly sometimes come into threads and find that a whole bunch of women are yet again ganging up on someone. I'm so tired of the cattiness. I was asking for advice on sippy cups for heavens sake!

]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:34:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101362&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101362 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I&#039;m sorry, I am trying my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101359&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101359 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:31pm

I'm sorry, I am trying my best to not sound patronising, given our somewhat dubious past!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:31:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101359&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101359 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Bizzy wrote: newlywed wrote: ...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101358&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101358 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:30pm

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

i'm surprised a registered nurse wasnt more aware of the WHO guidelines.

i have a collection of sippy cups in my cupboard that dont get used any more... my fave was the cheap ones from the supermarket. and as someone else said they all loved to drink water from my pump bottle.



Have you got it in for me tonight or something?


No, i was genuinely surprised! i guess i kind of expect nurses to know stuff related to health!

edited to fix the quote thingy.


Well I don't hang out on the WHO website in my spare time.

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:30:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101358&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101358 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I think, from what I can gather...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101357&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101357 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:30pm

I think, from what I can gather where the "wheels fall off" a bit for plunket is that sometimes the advice is a bit one size fits most. For example, the growth charts are based on bottle fed babies, which is why lots of mums panic that their BF baby isn't in the which ever centile is desireable at coffee group. Lactation consultants have a different chart and rule of thumb for weight gains. Im sure this stems from when the BF rate was lower, the socio economic stats for plunket clients and the earlier weaning time from times pst, and a variety of other reasons I'm sure.

Ive always found plunket to be good, however I just take on board the advice that fitted for our family and didn't stress out too much about the other advice, such as the sleep through the night, the cry it out thing (I sooo don't agree with that one) etc.

They have recently moved their advice from "breastfeed to 6 months and beyond" to "breastfeed to 12 months and beyond" to be closer to the who codes standards while recognising that for Kiwis, the later wean age is between 6 and 12 months., which I think is pretty cool - encouraging mums to feed past 6 months...now they just need to stop scarting BF mums with lack of iron stories nd I'll be happy!!!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:30:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101357&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101357 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : ...Edited by newlywed ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101356&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101356 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:30pm

...

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:30:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101356&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101356 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : newlywed wrote: Bizzy wrote:i&#039;m...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101355&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101355 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:28pm

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

i'm surprised a registered nurse wasnt more aware of the WHO guidelines.

i have a collection of sippy cups in my cupboard that dont get used any more... my fave was the cheap ones from the supermarket. and as someone else said they all loved to drink water from my pump bottle.



Have you got it in for me tonight or something?


No, i was genuinely surprised! i guess i kind of expect nurses to know stuff related to health!

edited to fix the quote thingy.

Edited by Bizzy]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:28:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101355&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101355 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : NW it is of course your choice...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101352&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101352 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:27pm

NW it is of course your choice to stop BF if you wish, I guess the questions being asked are around what your replacing breast milk with?]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:27:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101352&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101352 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : TheKelly wrote:Some of what...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101347&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101347 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:21pm

Originally posted by TheKelly TheKelly wrote:

Some of what Plunket says I agree with , but a lot I don't , I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I know there have been some cases where I just decide to agree to disagree with them .
I think motherhood is a mixture of taking professional advice and using it when it suits , and going by your own intuition .
Somethings Plunket say will work for you , some wont , you just pick and choose what suits your lifestyle best imo


I agree. I have to say though that the Plunket Family Cntr was my lifeline through a terrible time when Nathan was newborn so I feel very loyal to them. But even they advised me that you take professional advice but do what works for you.

Cali - good for you. As for me, no I am happy with my decision to stop breastfeeding at 12mths - reasons I gave earlier.

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:21:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101347&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101347 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Bizzy wrote:i&#039;m surprised...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101344&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101344 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:20pm

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

i'm surprised a registered nurse wasnt more aware of the WHO guidelines.

i have a collection of sippy cups in my cupboard that dont get used any more... my fave was the cheap ones from the supermarket. and as someone else said they all loved to drink water from my pump bottle.



Have you got it in for me tonight or something?]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:20:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101344&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101344 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : I&#039;d like to be able to breast...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101342&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101342 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:18pm

I'd like to be able to breast feed as long as I possibly can, if I can manage to for that long then yes I would.
Why wouldn't you?

]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:18:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101342&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101342 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : i&#039;m surprised a registered...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101340&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101340 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:17pm

i'm surprised a registered nurse wasnt more aware of the WHO guidelines.

i have a collection of sippy cups in my cupboard that dont get used any more... my fave was the cheap ones from the supermarket. and as someone else said they all loved to drink water from my pump bottle.

]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:17:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101340&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101340 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Some of what Plunket says I agree...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101338&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101338 Author: TheKelly
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:17pm

Some of what Plunket says I agree with , but a lot I don't , I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I know there have been some cases where I just decide to agree to disagree with them .
I think motherhood is a mixture of taking professional advice and using it when it suits , and going by your own intuition .
Somethings Plunket say will work for you , some wont , you just pick and choose what suits your lifestyle best imo]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:17:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101338&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101338 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : So do you think you&#039;d like...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101330&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101330 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:10pm

So do you think you'd like to breastfeed for 2yrs cali when you have your baby? I trust Plunket a lot. I'm a Registered Nurse and have relieved for Plunket and I trust quite a bit of what they say because it's based on research and often works well. But I also use my own intuition with my baby.

Edited by newlywed]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:10:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101330&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101330 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : fattartsrock wrote: caliandjack...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101326&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101326 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:07pm

Originally posted by fattartsrock fattartsrock wrote:

Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

Thanks for the clarification fattarts, I did wonder about the 'added benefits' the formula makers market and whether babies / children are already getting those benefits from their normal BF/solids diet.

The advertising screams to me of supplementing children's diets with vitamins and minerals they're already getting elsewhere.


it does have its place, mainly in the diets of children who don't eat such a good diet? or if you want to give it to them of course! Personally, wouldn't waste my money, but if thats what you want to do for peace of mind, then thats fine too!   If you are still BF then they get all those lovely nutrients etc from you! The 6 months more iron thing that plunket go on about it right to a degree, they do need more, however if you are breastfeeding there isn no need to panic and stop BF to put them on an iron enriched formula, because of course, they get it all from you! You might need to eat a bit better, but your body gives it to baby to the detriment of yourself if you aren't eating well, much like when you are PG.


That makes perfect sense, if I'm eating a balanced diet and giving the same including BF to my child then they should be getting all the nutrients they need.

I'm also not convinced of the impartiality of Plunket given how heavily funded/sponsored they are by manufacturers of baby products.

I realize its my decision, but its my child's life.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:07:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101326&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101326 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : misscheeky wrote: newlywed...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101323&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101323 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:05pm

Originally posted by misscheeky misscheeky wrote:

Originally posted by newlywed newlywed wrote:

My understanding is they don't actually need breastmilk past 12mths. I wonder if they are delaying it (WHO) till 2yo because they have suggested delaying cows milk as long as possible?


I am curious , although weaning your child is your choice you are going to be weaning him onto cows milk. So instead of giving him the milk that is specifically desgned to be perfect for him and his nutritional needs you'll be giving him an inferior substitute which comes from an animal.

And by doing so are saying he still needs milk past 12 months but not the one thats perfect for him.

Just another way to look at it


That was the post I was responding to. Regarding the WHO guidelines. I thought that Plunket advised according to WHO guidelines - perhaps not specifically in this case but in general. Which is why I put WHO/Plunket because I got the advice from Plunket and it seems to be a common time to wean (12mths) if people don't do it beforehand for whatever reason, eg. work.

Anyway - enough of all that!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:05:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101323&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101323 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : That is a great job - I owe my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101319&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101319 Author: anon
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 7:01pm

That is a great job - I owe my ability to breastfeed to lactation consultants at hospital and Plunket.

]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:01:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101319&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101319 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Another approach that seems to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101308&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101308 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:45pm

Another approach that seems to be working well so far for me is to give her a shot glass of water. It's just the right size for her and she's very proficient with it already. To start with she'd get it just before bath so the wet clothes didn't matter ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:45:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101308&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101308 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lilfatty wrote:He might figure...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101294&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101294 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:28pm

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

He might figure out how to use a pump bottle quicker if you put orange juice (watered down) in it.



he he ick!

And thanks Becks for the shout out! For those 2 or 3 of you that might not know, I am a breastfeeding educator, I educate mothers and healthcare professionals including plunket and practice nurses in the latest BF education as well as run workshops to help them to deal with specific BF problems. I am employed by our local PHO along with another woman to help and we have between us 3 degrees and practicing licences to do so. When Charly heads off to school I will finish my education to become a lactation consultant.

Edited by fattartsrock]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:28:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101294&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101294 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : caliandjack wrote:Thanks for...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101292&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101292 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:27pm

Originally posted by caliandjack caliandjack wrote:

Thanks for the clarification fattarts, I did wonder about the 'added benefits' the formula makers market and whether babies / children are already getting those benefits from their normal BF/solids diet.

The advertising screams to me of supplementing children's diets with vitamins and minerals they're already getting elsewhere.


it does have its place, mainly in the diets of children who don't eat such a good diet? or if you want to give it to them of course! Personally, wouldn't waste my money, but if thats what you want to do for peace of mind, then thats fine too!   If you are still BF then they get all those lovely nutrients etc from you! The 6 months more iron thing that plunket go on about it right to a degree, they do need more, however if you are breastfeeding there isn no need to panic and stop BF to put them on an iron enriched formula, because of course, they get it all from you! You might need to eat a bit better, but your body gives it to baby to the detriment of yourself if you aren't eating well, much like when you are PG.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:27:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101292&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101292 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : He might figure out how to use...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101281&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101281 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:07pm

He might figure out how to use a pump bottle quicker if you put orange juice (watered down) in it. ]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:07:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101281&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101281 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : lilfatty wrote:But surely they...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101280&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101280 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:05pm

Originally posted by lilfatty lilfatty wrote:

But surely they need some form of milk after reaching the age of one? .. im confused ...


Well, yeah but its not a must!! If they are eating a varied diet filled with calcium rich foods its not really that much of a biggie.]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:05:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101280&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101280 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Bizzy wrote:i dont think your...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101277&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101277 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:04pm

Originally posted by Bizzy Bizzy wrote:

i dont think your decision to stop bf was questioned, more that you stated that WHO recommended it when in fact they didnt. I would hate for any other parents to get the same misinformation as you did.



Yep that was the part I was wondering about, not the decision to stop, as I stated in my original post, I think 12 months is pretty great stuff!!!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:04:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101277&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101277 <![CDATA[Problems with Sippy Cup : Yep sure do, and liek I sid even...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101275&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101275 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 34743
Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:02pm

Yep sure do, and liek I sid even those mini pumps are great they seem to figure them out pretty fast.

And well done for feeding for 12 months, I think that is a real acheivement, espicially in trying times- mastitis etc.

Charly has never drink cows milk ever since I weaned her, but eats plenty of other calcium rich food, so it dosen't worry me too much. Jake on the other hand can't get enough of the stuff!]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:02:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34743&PID=1101275&title=problems-with-sippy-cup#1101275