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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Going to have to resurrect this....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21381">jano1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 June 2010 at 2:35pm<br /><br />Going to have to resurrect this. DD has gone downhill- hardly any sleep during the day and nights are getting worse. It's like having a newborn again but at least newborns sleep more.<br /><br />Who knew trying to get a toddler to sleep would be so difficult?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : I can&amp;#039;t believe I missed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19679">AandCsmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 June 2010 at 11:00pm<br /><br />I can't believe I missed this thread!!<br /><br />Still got a crappy sleeper here as well. <br /><br />We are getting less of the squirmy nights cause a) I eat bland bland foods & b) he's hardly eating as well!<br /><br />Tara, Is your girl on Losec now?<br /><br />Emmecat, then I'm feeding 5-6 times to many according to them!<br /><br />Hugs everyone, I'm going to bed this time before the next wake up after our long stint last night.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Yay, awesome sleeping Clodagh!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20049">whitewave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 June 2010 at 9:44pm<br /><br />Yay, awesome sleeping Clodagh! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0">  Long may it continue!<br /><br />We are still in the crappy sleepers club, the day sleep is okay, but I usually have to BF him first.<br />Campbell still wants BF all night too, usually about 4 times a night.  Sigh.  Emmecat, how did you wean Clodagh off night time BFs?<br />I've managed to complicate the issue due to co-sleeping, there's no way I could do CC or CIO even if I didn't have a problem with it otherwise!]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : SBM- yeah I&amp;#039;d love to try...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18300">Emmecat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 June 2010 at 6:45pm<br /><br /><P>SBM- yeah I'd love to try your mei tei!!! I have a Moby but since my abdominal surgery its been a bit sore to wear her much <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">. I weaned her at night cos she was wanting to feed every 2-3 hours and it was habit, not hunger. Most of the time she was pacifying and I couldn't cope getting up to her nursery all the time (even it is is just off our bedroom lol). She stills BF's 3-4 times a day which according to quite a few people (my well meaning lovely mother included) is 3-4 times too often. Sigh.</P><P>BUT good news....Clodagh SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT last night!!! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0">&nbsp;<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0">&nbsp;Random but great. Of course I'm knackered though cos I kept waking up to make sure she was still alive lol. And this arvo she slept for 2 hours in her buggy outside! She's still refusing the cot totally during the day but goes down fine in the buggy so meh who I am to argue?! Long may it continue!!! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Hey Emmecat, sounds like you&amp;#039;re...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21065">SBM</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 June 2010 at 6:26pm<br /><br />Hey Emmecat, sounds like you're having a hard time! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I have been off the OB-train for a while so haven't been keeping up with your goss. Why is it that you don't want to BF your DD at night?? That doesn't sound like the "lactivist" I know!!<br /><br />Have you tried wearing her to sleep? I know you've got that big backpack, but have you got a sling or a mei tai or something so that she's snuggled up to you? If you don't but you'd like to try something out, let me know and I can lend you something from my stash <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Hmmm ditto Mel.....but mine won&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18300">Emmecat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 June 2010 at 8:42am<br /><br /><P>Hmmm ditto Mel.....but mine won't even sleep on me <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">. Just maybe in the buggy...if I'm lucky!</P><P>Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : We are back in here for day sleeps...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19267">mummyofprinces</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 June 2010 at 8:44pm<br /><br />We are back in here for day sleeps<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Jake is flat out refusing to sleep in his cot during the day and if I am lucky I can get him to fall asleep on me and then transfer him to the sofa.. which means I am stuck with him in case he rolls off.. He will sleep in the car but I can hardly drive around for 90 mins or so and will fall asleep in the buggy but if I walk for 90 minutes now my pelvis will collapse (hmm really must mention that to my mw next time I see her but no doubt i will forget).<br /><br />I am so over it!!! <br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Aaaww thanks T Rex.... ...I just...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18300">Emmecat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 June 2010 at 6:11pm<br /><br /><P>Aaaww thanks T Rex.... <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">...I just feel like walking out at this stage...I've tried every possible approach adn tried so hard to be consistent with nap times and approachs etc. She IS better at night in that she 'only' wakes up at midnight and 4am and normally DF can settle her (I rarely get up to her at night now cos otherwise she just wants BF). But during the day lately she is saying NO WAY to naps unless I'm able to walk her in the buggy....which is fine when its sunny and I"m only 16 weeks pg but when its pissing with rain and I'm 7 months pg I'll probably feel less inclined to drag the MB up our flight of conrete steps IYKWIM!!! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"></P><P>I feel like I am resorting to CC and CIO <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0">&nbsp;I hate doing this as its so against my values and way of parenting and quite frankly, with Clodagh's feisty personality it doesn't seem to work. In every single other respect she is a joy and so happy and lovely and everyone who meets her loves her....but then they don't see her at home not sleeping!!! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Oh Emmecat, you aren&amp;#039;t a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 June 2010 at 3:36pm<br /><br />Oh Emmecat, you aren't a bad mum. I think you are a lovely, caring mum, and that's why your little girl likes to see you so much during the night <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> It's no surprise things are taking their toll on you, not having slept in, umm... 1 year, 3 weeks and 4 days and being 16 weeks pregnant - both those things are hard on their own, both together and it's no wonder you want out some days! I don't have any advice cos my baby doesn't sleep either (sigh), but I can offer some sympathy at least <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Kaybee, sorry to hear you are back in the club. It's the kind you want to get out of and stay out of, isn't it? Hopefully it's just teething and things will be sorted for you soon.<br /><br />I can at least report that we have been making some progress here (YAY!). I'm still up every hour and a half to two hours, but I'm usually back in bed within half an hour now, which is a HUGE improvement. Previously I'd be happy if she was back down within 2 hours. Slow progress, but progress non-the-less, and steady and slow wins the race right? <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Man I think I ought to RUN this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18300">Emmecat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 June 2010 at 11:58am<br /><br /><P>Man I think I ought to RUN this club with my rubbish sleeper!<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"></P><P>Clodagh is till waking twice a night....and thats on a good night! On a good night DF can get her back down in 5-10 min, on a bad night like last night she'll be up fro HOURS screaming. TO make it worse, she's now refusing to sleep at all during the day unless I push her in the buggy.</P><P>I know I sounds like the worst mum in the world but I am so bloody over her and her crappy sleeing I could just walk out sometimes <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Looks like I&amp;#039;m back in the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22026">kaybee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 June 2010 at 10:02am<br /><br />Looks like I'm back in the club! The swaddling worked for about 2 weeks but now it has all gone to crappola again. Man it sucks being tired! Last night I tried not feeding him and spent 2 hours with him screaming and nothing working, even after I fed him he started crying again after 15 mins so I ended up getting him sin bed with me as we both really needed some sleep! He has a tooth coming through so I might try getting some Bonjela and see if that helps<br /><br />fallen - does anyone in your household smoke, even if they only smoke outside? That can cause babies/children to have bronchiolitis/ear infections. I used to work with parents who smoked and it made a huge difference when they stopped. Thought I'd suggest it just in case that could be it. It must be hard on you all having a sick baby so often and being in and out of hospital, hopefully things settle down for you soon!<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : *waves as she walks in* My miss...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21239">FreeSpirit</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 June 2010 at 10:27pm<br /><br />*waves as she walks in* My miss nearly two is STILL a terrible sleeper. I'm up with her 4 or 5 times a night still..... and to really help things, she's dropping her day naps <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18554">myfullhouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 June 2010 at 9:51pm<br /><br />I know I shouldn't say it but it is comforting to know that so many other people have crappy sleepers! All my CG seemed to have no problems getting their kids to sleep though.<br /><br />Nights are getting a little better here since Ben's teeth have started cutting, a molar, a canine and a bottom tooth from what I can see/feel in the last week. He is still up at least twice in the nigh plus once before I go to bed, but this is better than it was. Plus he has spent most or all of the last few nights in his cot rather than his bed. <br />Now I just have to get Jack to stop sneaking into our bed, he has got good at it and I hardly notice most times! I think I returned him to his bed a few times last night but gave up when I found he had returned yet again!]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : I&amp;#039;ll have to join this club...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20049">whitewave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 June 2010 at 8:19pm<br /><br />I'll have to join this club - Cam is 16 months and still waking 3-4 times a night.  Kali - sounds like he is just like Lauren; he co-sleeps with us too, just cause its so much easier!  <br /><br />T-Rex, if you think your little girl is uncomfortable with a sore tummy, she just might be.  Campbell has a sensitive digestive system, and occasionally still has tummy upset issues at night.  You could try probiotics, which may help.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Unfortunately pushing the bed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22195">E&L+1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 June 2010 at 1:10pm<br /><br />Unfortunately pushing the bed up against the wall won't work, and he wakes me up even if she is on my side of the bed. (I sleep with my arm around her and she doesn't move when asleep).<br /><br />But last night was kind of an improvement. One of her wake ups she didn't want a feed so I managed to resettle her (after 30 minutes of cuddles) so hopefully that'll help with the waking tonight! ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : i must say after reading this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 June 2010 at 1:01pm<br /><br />i must say after reading this we are lucky with number one..he has phases of waking but can always be resettled quickly.. and most nights does 12 hours straight.. number two i have implemented routine eat and sleep times and now no rocking and much better sleep..far out..:) <br /><br />number one has never been in our bed..we tired a few times but he wasnt interested so i think that does help..cause i used to do that all the time to my parents cause it was warmer and much better with company:) ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19293">rachelsea</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 June 2010 at 9:41pm<br /><br />Ooh  can I join this club? Yes my baby is almost 16months old, but she's never been very good at sleeping <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I should be in bed after our terrible night last night, but she woke up 1.5hrs ago and is not planning on going to bed any time soon <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22931">FayeG</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 June 2010 at 1:03pm<br /><br />I'll join.  Up till DS was 5months he was a pretty good night sleeper, waking once per night if that.  Now OMG last night up every 2 hours, the night before every 4 hours the night before he slept 10pm - 7am, the night before 9pm -4am, feed then back to bed till 9am.  So our sleeps are so different every night.  I find I do feed him when he wakes, but when its every few hours its snack feeding, which I should stop, but when you are tired, DH needs his sleep etc so you try to limit the crying, a  quick feed and DS back to sleep.  I dont have a set bedtime, maybe I should.  Our routine is sleep, feed, play.  I find if DS goes to bed 7pm ,he wakes every 45min - hour till 10pm.  Quite often he wakes an hour after going to bed.  He goes to bed awake and takes himself to sleep... so I'll join this club and keen to hear any tips.... very jeleous of a friends baby who is just older than DS and sleeps 6pm - 5am every night without fail!!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18529">Cassie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 June 2010 at 8:41am<br /><br />okay, I'm signing up! Lauren has always been a crappy sleeper, and I'm beginning to think she always will be. I can count on two hands the number of nights she's slept for 8hrs solid, and only once ever did she do an 11 hour stretch - only because she was so exhausted I think!<br /><br />Such a difference from Ivy who has always been a really fantastic sleeper... baby is due in just a couple of weeks now and at least I can say that it can't actually be worse than Lauren! lol I'm so used to being woken multiple times a night that sometimes I wake up when L doesn't these days, just waiting for it to happen.... plus I'm not sleeping the best right now anyways, even when I'm knackered. <br /><br />DH sleeps through everything. Because of this he can't actually put Lauren back to sleep because she just won't go to him for that, and I can't afford for her to wake up her big sister too much because then she's grumpy and very difficult to manage. Fun times! I am holding onto the hope that the new baby seems to sleep better in-utero. Lauren used to startle at every noise, where as if this one is sleeping, it stays sleeping. Fingers crossed right? <br /><br />I wish I could say that all of your babies will magically be better sleepers soon, but I haven't found that to be the case with mine. I know it won't last forever though, so I'm hanging in there and doing what I can. You just do the best you can right? <br /><br />Hang in there ladies!<br /><br />For the record, Lauren is still in our bed (it was the only way I could get any sleep initially, and well, its snuggly lol DH and I both actually like having her there), and is still BF. I still feed her to sleep when she is having a really hard time falling asleep, though not all the time anymore. Some kids just seem to loathe sleep and will do anything to avoid it - she's one of them! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 June 2010 at 8:06am<br /><br />Esme, we had pushed our bed up against a wall, so that when I brought DD back to bed, she'd go against the wall, then me between her and DH, so that he can't roll on her. It was still a bit cramped though, so now we've pushed the spare single bed between our bed and the wall so we have a massive bed, even if it's got a bit of a lump at the join. DH and I still sleep in our bed normally, but if we need to bring DD in, I'll often put her in the single bed and feed her to sleep, then roll out into our bed once she's asleep. If she's too crotchety for that, then DH gets in the single bed and DD and I sleep in the big bed. It's meant that we all get a better sleep when she's in with us. <br /><br />We had another good sleep again last night <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Only up 3 times, and never for more than an hour. I think we are finally starting to master the reflux. Plus a while ago I put a big effort into getting her attached to a cuddly bunny toy, but didn't think I'd got anywhere, so when I lost it, I didn't bother looking for it. It's been gone maybe 2 weeks. But I found it again on Friday, and she seemed so pleased to see it, and since then we've had 2/3 good sleeps! So she must have been attached to it after all and it's certainly helping her self-settle. I love Elizabeth Pantley <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> I've just been on Trademe and bought a spare now, so we can have one at daycare and one a home.<br /><br />Enough from me... I hope I'm the only up so far on this miserably rainy queens birthday <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22195">E&L+1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 June 2010 at 2:30pm<br /><br />We were the same last night 4 or 5 times I can't clear her nose as she gets all upset. <br /><br />I fed her in bed last night and kept falling asleep without putting her back. DP woke me up and said you have to take her back to bed or I'll roll on her. Grrr he could've picked her up and taken her back without making me do it! But he has man flu so can't complain too much. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 June 2010 at 9:26am<br /><br />Aww sorry to hear about all the shocking nights!<br /><br />We were up about 4 times last night as Jamie now has a cold and his nose was all stuffed up.<br /><br />I was in there with the pamol, the nose drops, the vix in a bowl of hot water.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rocking, patting, etc for a while.<br /><br />I remember it being about 5AM and he woke again and I nearly cried because he'd only been asleep for about half an hour!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I put his dummy back in fully expecting to be up again in a few minutes but the next thing I knew it was 9AM!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So we got four hours!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sam is away with his grandparents and father so I would have been up with him at about 7:30AM otherwise so I'm thankful for the little sleep I got!<br /><br />T-Rex, Jamie often looks uncomfortable and will try to drift off to sleep but make noises at the same time like he's not happy.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 June 2010 at 9:05am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by erinalba" alt="Originally posted by erinalba" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>erinalba wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'm usually in bed at around 7.30 to 8pm because I'm so tired and it gives me a little extra broken sleep.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Me too! I never thought this would still be the case as we approached 6 months! I want to feel like a grown up again. Sigh.<br /><br />We had a brilliant sleep on Friday night. I got 3 hours in a row, TWICE! With only a 35 minute wakeup in between. <br />Then last night was back to awful. Up every hour, and then from 2-4 am. I brought her back to our bed at 1, but that didn't help. <br /><br />Does anyone else get the impression their babies are up because they are uncomfortable? It seemed like DD had a really sore tummy last night, but it often does. She's exclusively BF, and I eat a pretty limited diet to try and keep her happy, but it seems crazy that she'd be so sensitive. Friday showed me once again that if she's comfy, she's actually not a bad sleeper.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19287">erinalba</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 June 2010 at 7:07am<br /><br />I'll join you girls too.  Briannah is up 4 or 5 times a night for a feed, and the witching hour is between 4 and 6am when I usually pop her in bed with me.  Day sleeps have been pretty shocking lately too.  I'm usually in bed at around 7.30 to 8pm because I'm so tired and it gives me a little extra broken sleep.  Nice to know I'm not alone.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19483">Mrs_B</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 11:39pm<br /><br />I'm still a member of this club nearly 13mths on.....<br /><br />I can count on one hand the number of times DS has slept through the night. On a good night he wakes once or twice, otherwise it's 4-5x. I'm kinda use to the sleep deprivation now. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18554">myfullhouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 9:49pm<br /><br />Far out, I thought I was the only one!<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mamanee" alt="Originally posted by mamanee" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mamanee wrote:</strong><br /><br />You know you're sleep deprived when 4-5 hours in a row would be pure bliss!</td></tr></table><br />That's me! Would kill for that. I would love to have just DH and me in the bed at night as well!<br /><br />Jack has never been a good sleeper, has only ever slept through a handful of times but I can cope with 1-2 brief wake ups to return him to bed. But Ben is teething, cutting about 5 teeth from what I can see and hasn't been sleeping well for weeks, or is it months? <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> Day sleeps are good at the moment but evenings and nights are cr*p. It has been 2hrs since I got him to sleep tonight and I have already resettled him 3 times. He will end up in our bed (before or just after I go to bed) and will wake several times and I will feed him back to sleep as it is the quickest and easiest. At some stage in the night Jack will crawl into our bed, I will be so tired I won't notice. So it will be a cramped night again, Ben sleeps in the middle between DH and I, Jack squishes in and shares my pillow <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">. I think Jack just wants to be with everyone else. Once Ben starts sleeping better again I will start returning Jack to his bed at night but at the moment it just seems too hard.<br /><br />Ok rant over! <br />Hope everyone gets a good nights sleep i.e. 4hrs in a row!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19765">Disco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 8:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chelle" alt="Originally posted by chelle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chelle wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Disco" alt="Originally posted by Disco" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Disco wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chelle" alt="Originally posted by chelle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chelle wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'm in too!  Just when things seemed to be settling down and we were getting better nights AND better days he decided he'd rather wake up lots and go back to catnaps only.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;V and coke are my friends.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  <br /><br />But on the bright side it was a great bargaining tool for getting DH to go out and get takeaways even though he's cooked the last 4 nights.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />i noticed that when i gave up drinking all drinks with caffeine in them, and for me that was coke, things got better, the caffeine in them was just too much for DD. it was hard for me as it was a pick me up when i was really tired. She was waking a couple of times a night.<br /><br />Now i don't drink any fizzy drinks and we sleep from 7pm - anywhere from 5am- 7am.<br /><br />i occassionally have a coke now and she always wakes up when i do. just a thought!<br /><br />may the sleep fairy visit you all as I know how hard it is! i just had 6 months of it.<br /><br />disco</td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm FF though so pretty sure it doesn't affect him<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />definitely not that then, thank god for v and coke then :) ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 6:21pm<br /><br />with number one i wouldnt let him cry with number two i dont mind a few mins but cant let him wake number one lol.. though he isnt here tonight so might see how we go... ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 6:18pm<br /><br />i have to come back soon and read this..Liam has always done 45mins sleeps in day and 6-8 then 4 at night but last four have been every two hours...omg:( it sucks so bad.! <br /><br />i drink a fair amount of caffeine but pretty sure that makes no difference if anything when i dont its worse lol.. <br /><br />Not a good sleeper when preg and so I'm knackered now..i get so irritated at DH sleeping soundly while I'm up all the time.. he had 100ml formula yesterday(before then wont take bottle) and slept longer not sure if coincidence as today he has been sleeping well too.... though good day sleep seems to be crap night sleep...grr:( <br /><br />I just read yours mamanee same as Liam good day bad night etc! and he's still so young i havent really tried much resettling.. the only good thing is he has started self settling most of the time thank goodness..rocking was hard.. sometimes during the day i had to but never at night thank goodness...(better make another post i guess) :) ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20581">fallen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 2:28pm<br /><br />I'm in!<br /><br />I went back to work when Sebastian was 6 months old.  He was a dream sleeper up till that time.  But in the past 3 months hes had 4 bouts of bronchilatis (sp?), 3 hospital admissions, a ear infection that we've tried 4 different antibiotics for but is still there and now has chicken pox.  So broken sleep is common place in our household at the moment.  I'm still working full time so feel like a zombie most of the time.  The last two nights the only thing I've found that will settle him is the disney playhouse channel on tv.  So for the last two nights he and I have dozed on and off on the lounge floor in front of the tv.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22195">E&L+1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 June 2010 at 10:06am<br /><br />I have hardly any caffine. No tea or coffee, and only the occassional coke.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18906">tiptoes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 9:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Disco" alt="Originally posted by Disco" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Disco wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chelle" alt="Originally posted by chelle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chelle wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'm in too!  Just when things seemed to be settling down and we were getting better nights AND better days he decided he'd rather wake up lots and go back to catnaps only.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;V and coke are my friends.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  <br /><br />But on the bright side it was a great bargaining tool for getting DH to go out and get takeaways even though he's cooked the last 4 nights.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />i noticed that when i gave up drinking all drinks with caffeine in them, and for me that was coke, things got better, the caffeine in them was just too much for DD. it was hard for me as it was a pick me up when i was really tired. She was waking a couple of times a night.<br /><br />Now i don't drink any fizzy drinks and we sleep from 7pm - anywhere from 5am- 7am.<br /><br />i occassionally have a coke now and she always wakes up when i do. just a thought!<br /><br />may the sleep fairy visit you all as I know how hard it is! i just had 6 months of it.<br /><br />disco</td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm FF though so pretty sure it doesn't affect him<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22173">myonlineself</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 8:31pm<br /><br />I'm in too - I really thought it was just me and no one else could possibly have a nearly 6 month old baby waking that many time! I have just (in the last week) managed to bring her bedtime forward till 8pm (it was hours of screaming, crying, fussing etc till at least 10pm until recently. Now its down around 8, wake at 8.30, then at 9.30 then 11.45, 2.45, 5 and up for the day at 8, with maybe an extra wakeup at 7. <br /><br />I was feeding every single time, nursing her back to sleep, but now I can usually rock, shussh her back to sleep in 5-10 minutes (still wakes me right up though) with just the 2.45 and/or the 5am one as feeds... I too don't mind feeding her if she's hungry, but the waking up crying and just needing to be resettled thing is hard work!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19765">Disco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 8:25pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chelle" alt="Originally posted by chelle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chelle wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'm in too!  Just when things seemed to be settling down and we were getting better nights AND better days he decided he'd rather wake up lots and go back to catnaps only.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;V and coke are my friends.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  <br /><br />But on the bright side it was a great bargaining tool for getting DH to go out and get takeaways even though he's cooked the last 4 nights.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />i noticed that when i gave up drinking all drinks with caffeine in them, and for me that was coke, things got better, the caffeine in them was just too much for DD. it was hard for me as it was a pick me up when i was really tired. She was waking a couple of times a night.<br /><br />Now i don't drink any fizzy drinks and we sleep from 7pm - anywhere from 5am- 7am.<br /><br />i occassionally have a coke now and she always wakes up when i do. just a thought!<br /><br />may the sleep fairy visit you all as I know how hard it is! i just had 6 months of it.<br /><br />disco]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17689">Mama2two</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 8:08pm<br /><br />I'm in!<br /><br />#1 is a dream.  Was sleeping through from around 6 weeks old and even now at 3 does 6.30-7.30 overnight - hardly ever has wake ups<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />#2 none of the above!  Wakes constantly, can't resettle himself at all (probably because I can't let him cry in fear he will wake his big sister up!), won't sleep during the day for more than 20 minutes - nuff said!  Argh!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lets just say I miss my bed and husband<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mama2two</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22195">E&L+1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 8:07pm<br /><br />*puts hand up*<br /><br />Just when we thought we were getting somewhere we are back to 2-4 hourly waking. which translates to about 3 hours for me by the time I get back to sleep!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18906">tiptoes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 8:05pm<br /><br />I'm in too!  Just when things seemed to be settling down and we were getting better nights AND better days he decided he'd rather wake up lots and go back to catnaps only.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;V and coke are my friends.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  <br /><br />But on the bright side it was a great bargaining tool for getting DH to go out and get takeaways even though he's cooked the last 4 nights.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18432">LJsmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 4:25pm<br /><br />mamanee it is tricky having a busy 3 year old boy and feeling like a zombie! thank goodness for 20 hours ECE and private kindy. Ds1 just started three mornings a week from 9.00 -12.30. It's excellent for him and me<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> .<br /><br />Today DS2 sleep has gone out the window! he's not feeding well i have matisits (?) and feel awful i wonder if the milk tastes different am on antibotics as well. <br /><br />oh well another night a wiats us here's hoping it's better tonight.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 3:13pm<br /><br />Mamanee, sounds like our two are similar. <br /><br />At least tonight when I'm up for hours on end, I'll be able to think that I'm not the only one!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19081">Henna79</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 2:26pm<br /><br />Me too!!!  <br /><br />My nearly 2 year old still won't sleep through.  He does occasionally but not consistently enough to say he does.  We have done everything we can to try and put our finger on why he won't but at the end of the day I enjoy cuddling up in bed with the little snuggler when he does wake up <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0">  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17585">Peanut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 2:11pm<br /><br />I am in!<br /><br />#2 is a nightmare sleeper! Wakes at least twice a night  and sleeps for no longer than 45mins in the day at sone time.<br /><br />#1 was a nightmare night sleeper but a wicked day sleeper. He didn't sleep thru consistently until 18 months.<br /><br />I would love a good sleep.<br /><br />Also both my boys wake for the day between 5 -5.30am.<br /><br />I am of no help as can't figure out what causes my boys probably...I blame the breeding!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18300">Emmecat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 11:46am<br /><br />I'm in...and probably with the oldest baby! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">&nbsp;Clodagh's still rubbish at staying asleep more than 4 hours a night...tops. And that's a bloody good night! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 11:20am<br /><br />MamaT, the only time we've had a good night (1-2 times waking) is when he has a really shocking day and doesn't sleep much at all.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Everyone says sleep breeds sleep, but it seems to be the total opposite here.<br /><br />On a typical night we have screaming every hour or so until midnight, sleep for three hours, and then scream every hour until 8AM.<br /><br />Occasionally I'll get 7PM-midnight, which is a good night for us.  After midnight is just continual waking though. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I don't know when it ends!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am hoping that a crappy sleeping baby doesn't turn into a crappy sleeping toddler or child.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I feel a bit out of my depth because my three year old slept right through the night from 7 weeks onwards, only woke occasionally due to teething, and now sleeps 7PM-8AM, without fail every single night!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mamanee</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 11:05am<br /><br />yummymummy, I see you have a three year old boy too!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have one of those, and along with a non sleeping baby, it gets pretty tough! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21153">MamaT</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 11:03am<br /><br /><P>Oh yes, I'm definately in here.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Last night was a total shocker. He is waking every hour to hour and a half screaming and the only thing that will settle him is being nursed. I am normally up with him 8 times a night.</P><P>I am however getting on top of his day sleeps with generally 2 good sleeps of 1.5hours&nbsp;- 2hours and another 30min or 45min sleep in the late afternoon.</P><P>But, it seems that when I get his day sleeps right we have a really bad night, but if his day sleeps are crap we have a good night (and by good I mean up 4 or 5 times).</P><P>When will it end??!! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 11:02am<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />You know you're sleep deprived when 4-5 hours in a row would be pure bliss!<br /><br />Grr, I jinxed myself with the good morning sleeper!  We're coming up to 40 minutes of yelling, laughing, kicking, a bit of crying and general not sleepedness!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18432">LJsmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 10:49am<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif" border="0"> i'm in too!<br />I miss sleep, i miss a long stretch say more than 3 hours in a row. 4 or 5 would be excellent!<br /><br />I've got him down to only feeding 3 times now yah! done from 6-7 times at night! a small but wonderful accomplishment!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 10:38am<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif" border="0"> I'm in. I can't get more than 2 hours in a stretch out of her these days. And it takes up to 3 hours to get her to settle each time. So I know how you feel - tired - just like me! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 10:26am<br /><br />Any time!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Jamie is a good morning sleeper, but that's about it! <br /><br />Afternoon sleeps are almost a big fat waste of time in this house.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I can spend 1 hour+ settling, to get half an hour sleep out of him! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Share your pain!!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Does it have to be night time...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=992">Nutella</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 10:20am<br /><br />Does it have to be night time sleeping only or do stink sleepers during the day count <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Crappy Sleepers Club : Anyone one to join me?  I was...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17440">mamanee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 33857<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 June 2010 at 10:13am<br /><br />Anyone one to join me?<br /><br />I was up 5+ times last night.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A lot of the time it is for resettling, but twice was hunger, and then once was poos and then another he was wet right through and everything needed to be changed.<br /><br />I am OK with him waking at night because he's hungry, that doesn't bother me at all and I'm so used to it now anyway.<br /><br />I am over the hourly waking for reasons I can't figure out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've eliminated cold, hunger, wind, everything I can think of and he still wakes.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />CC and CIO is something I didn't think I would ever do and I still won't do the CIO method, but a little bit of controlled crying is helping I think.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And I'm talking less than five minutes of crying before I go in again.<br /><br />I know it doesn't last forever and I love my little baby dearly, but I'm sooooo tired!<br /><br />Does anyone want to join me just to sympathise, share our bad nights and have a bit of a whinge and a moan?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We don't have to offer advice or solutions, just a place to have a vent really.<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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