https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 19 Apr 2026 00:36:32 +0000 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:03:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.10 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=27577 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726667&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726667 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 9:03am

I am amazed how many children have some degree of eating difficulties. You never really hear of it until it happens!]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:03:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726667&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726667 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726614&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726614 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 27577
Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:36am

I found the most upsetting bit was the footage of the one little girl as a baby but that bit is right at the beginning and then it mostly jumps forward to her as a five year old.
I watched it cos my 3 year old nephew doesn't eat and I thought if it was useful I would send it to my sister to watch, but he drinks bottles he just won't touch real food so a different issue altogether.]]> Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:36:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726614&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726614 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726563&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726563 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 10:17pm

Thanks Susie.

When are we catching up? I miss you!!]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:17:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726563&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726563 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726501&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726501 Author: catisla
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:55pm

Hey :Laurie - i saw 20/20 and thought of you and wee Jackson - i think you should watch it - the actual message seemed quite positive in it. (and you can always stop if it is a bit too much!)

ETA - i did actually miss the start though, so dont know if there is anything traumatic then or not!

and then ETA - Catriona's spew varies from watery to cottage cheesy too . ..

Edited by Susiec]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:55:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726501&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726501 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726474&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726474 Author: Maya
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:31pm

I don't think you would find it too upsetting (but then it's hard for me to gauge as I don't live with Jackson's issues every day!), it was quite positive in it's approach. I'm not sure how relevant it would be, it was mainly just talking to two families, one who had done the Austrian treatment and been successful and one who hadn't but were considering it. The kids were 4-5 years old, so I guess if nothing else, it might be interesting to see the perspective of parents who have dealt with it in preschoolers.

]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:31:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726474&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726474 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726468&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726468 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:24pm

Emma... do you think I should perhaps watch the programme? How relevant do you think I would find it, given that Jackson will eat... quite happily does so just doesn't ever seem hungry, and therefore does not eat nearly enough to grow?

I don't want to get upset by watching it, but at the same time if there are things I should know..... ]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:24:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726468&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726468 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726463&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726463 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:23pm

Yes, definately. I think kids learn that eating is painful, and then the psychological problems begin. But I don't believe any course of treatment of the psychological factors would be successful until the physiological was under control.

Interestingly, the vast majority of babies with these severe eating problems were either premature, have heart problems or have severe GORD/GERD. Jackson doesn't fit any of those, which is why it's SO perplexing for us.

In Jackson's case, I definately believe there is a combination of psychological and physiological. The paed thought the physiological was now under control, but he saw evidence with me the other day which proved to him that there is something very physical still going on with Jackson. We just can't find what is causing it. Thankfully, because of Jackson's wee random episode, we're finally getting a couple more tests we wanted.

But unfortunately, until we find the physical problem, I don't think Jackson will come right. It's very frustrating.]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:23:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726463&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726463 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726452&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726452 Author: Maya
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:14pm

Fair enough - sometimes too much info can be a bad thing! I didn't even know that such a problem existed before I watched it, it was very interesting. The fact that you can "starve" children out of it suggests that it is a psychological barrier that causes the problem, but then the vomiting etc. are all very much physiological symptoms.]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:14:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726452&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726452 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726438&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726438 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 8:07pm

Thanks guys, sounds like the curdled look is relatively normal. Perhaps it is more curdled as Jackson is on relatively less Losec than he used to be?

Interesting point about the S26. Jackson was always good on the S26 1st stage, but I have noticed that the 2nd stage formula is REALLY frothy. And bad wind for him can be dangerous.

I didn't watch 20/20. I read the synopsis and it talked about kids who NEVER eat. Which is a bit more extreme than Jackson, so to be honest I didn't want to watch something that was going to scare me more. I think actually the programme was perhaps a bit relevant to us.... we've researched briefly the Austria place, but it would be a long time before we would need to think that might be our only hope. There are some more options to exhaust in NZ/Aus first I think. Plus, I don't know how in hell we could possibly afford such a treatment plan. Anyway, I was too afraid to watch so I didn't!!
]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:07:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726438&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726438 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726425&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726425 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 7:50pm

Yeah I watched 20/20, it was heartbreaking

Spencer's spill ups on neocate were always very watery compared to his breastmilk and standard formula ones (he was on SMA stage 1). Another side effect of neocate is cake mix poos when they are on solids.....lovely ]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:50:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726425&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726425 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726396&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726396 Author: Maya
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 7:27pm

Yep, cows milk spew is very different to Neocate spew, in fact just about everything is different to Neocate spew coz Neocate is just special like that (gotta love the black poos too ).

The curdled milk/cottage cheese appearance is caused by the milk mixing with the stomach acid and curdling, whereas the Neocate doesn't curdle as it's proteins are different.

Random and OT but did you see 20/20 the other day? I thought of Jackson when I was watching it.]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:27:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726396&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726396 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726341&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726341 Author: sarahm
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 6:09pm

S26 did not agree with Floyd at all!! I tried swapping a few weeks back and it was a disaster. He started spilling a lot more, sometimes pulling off mid feed and spilling (and yep it looked like cottage cheese) and had really bad wind and went from sleeping through to waking twice at night. Put him back on Nuture and he is back to watery/milky spills (and he doesnt spill with every feed like with the S26) and he is so much happier! I tried him on AR and it made no difference he still spilled.]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:09:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726341&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726341 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726333&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726333 Author: monikah
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 5:55pm

depending on how long his food has stayed down for macks spew looks different. it can just look like normal formula coming back up, it can be a bit chunky or it can look like cottage cheese mixed in clear water. its gross. he is on S26-AR and ranitidine. if he is still quite spilly maybe try putting him on the anti-reflux. its been amazing for us cos he used to spill really really bad.]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:55:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726333&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726333 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726319&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726319 Author: KiwiL
Subject: 27577
Posted: 19 July 2009 at 5:31pm

Hey girls,

Jackson has just switched from Neocate back to normal formula. We are using Stage 2 S26.

He's spewing a lot more than usual at the moment because we are putting more volume down the tube. When he was on Neocate his spew was very watery and pale white (looked like super trim milk!). Now though, it is quite a lot thicker, which I expected, but it is very curdled. It looks a bit like watery cottage cheese!

Is this normal for standard formula? When he was on Stage 1 S26 ages ago it was never like that, but is this because of the difference between Stage 1 and 2 (casien based instead of whey based)?

What did your spewey babies spew look like?!? Jackson is eating hardly any solids, so it might be a bit different for us.

If this sounds totally abnormal I'll take him to the doctor's this week. He doesn't seem to be in any pain and is possibly bringing up less volume than on the Neocate. ]]> Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:31:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27577&PID=726319&title=calling-reflux-mummies--q-for-you#726319