hi Scaredycat,

That is a difficult choice to make... when I started out I only wanted one put back because I didnt want to be a first time mother with two babies.  But then I decided to put in two so that if one doesn't implant then the other one might implant!   Actually on the day of the egg collection I asked them if they could put back three (to improve the chances) lol

I found this re the IVF refund scheme...  

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2345096/A-baby-or-your-cash-back

but I think that the  government assisted schemes may change to three chances sometime soon anyway...

Hi Scaredycat,  I remember those feeling well....     But maybe it will be easier next time round because you know what you are doing?

How many embies are you putting back?

I will start Clomid next cycle ... if this one doesn't work. 

Did you see that article last night about the ivf refund scheme... sounds reasonable!!  (for those under 39)

Hi Scaredycat..... How are you doing???

Scaredycat, it is disappointing.  My old gp was a bit slack and didnt seem to know much bout fertility and the procedure for ivf.  A friend who had gone on the ivf route told me to go straight to FA, which I did and Dr Birdsall told me that because I was (then) 39 I only just scraped in on the list and you know the rest of the story lol.

I have changed my GP and she seems more informed and helpful.

Yea, give AF a call to see what your results are and you might be able to find out when your TER is.... let me know what they say 

hi Scaredycat,  it was basically just a follow up appointment.  In my heart I was hoping that they would be able to do another publicly funded assisted ivf , but because I was lucky to get the one (being 39 when I was accepted) they said the next one would have to be privately funded.   They did say it would only be $8k and there would be no waiting.  We cannot afford it...   

My doctor has given me clomid (I havent tried that route yet).  I will give it a go for next cycle because we are going away for Easter weekend and don't want to be emotional (apparently clomid does that) during that time. 

How are you doing?  what cycle day are you on?  

I was thinking that you should trying charting/temping.  Specially during your ivf, because progesterone makes your temperature rise during the second half of your cycle and it will give you an idea how you are doing?  Sorry if I am being imposing...

Hi minik8e, that is fantastic that you are preggies with two!!  Here's wishing you and babas lots of health and happiness

Scaredycat, funny thing was that I enjoyed the progesterone because it made me feel relaxed and had some nice early nights from the sleepiness lol.

As for me, I have an appointment with Fert+ on Monday and see what options they may have for us.  Also AF should arrive on that day too, so a fresh new cycle to TTC!

Scaredycat,  from what I understand... the progesterone test is done 7 days before AF... if it is over 10 it means you ovulated that cycle.  

From googling,  1st trimester levels of 10 - 90 are normal.  But I am sure your specialists know what they are talking about

I also found out that definitely do not take Vitex with IVF treatment.

With the great news of Shopa and Kasper's BFPs, I am getting excited for you lol.

Hi Scaredycat,  I have been temping and charting and doing OPKs and watching the girls on "two week wait" and " waiting for ovulation" forums, which has kept me motivated and determined!  I still have moments of sadness but try and get over it.

I have also started taking vitex, folic acid and vitamins - will try anything lol.

I take it the bloodtest you are having is the day 21 progesterone test?  They should give you a number and you will be able to tell if it is normal or not... I think it should be above 10?? 

I am job hunting at the mo and so have more time on my hands, so the days are much longer...

Congratulations Shopa!  That is wonderful!!   You gotta let us know how you are doing....would love to know if it is a singleton or twins.

Scaredycat, your turn soon

hi Scaredycat,   maybe we follow cycles in April? when you get your thermometer.  What day is your ter in May?

Hi Shopa,  I will be thinking of you and bestest wishes for you

My tip is to keep yourself busy....   not like I did ... I became so obsessed and self centred  it was unbearable lol.

Are you on any meds or vitamins?

hi Scaredycat, 

I  bought a digital thermometer off trademe for about $10 dollars and the ovulation test sticks off ebay for really cheap,  $7 for 20, also pregnancy tests too.

It is quite interesting to watch your temperature rise as your hormones change.  I have been putting them on a chart on fertility friend (http://www.fertilityfriend.com).  Great website because they send you a daily lessons on ovulation signs and what your hormones are doing and other informative bits about what happens to your body.  I am enjoying doing this and wish I had done all this before the ivf ...

What cycle day are you on scaredycat?

Honeybun and Shopa I have just popped in and seen your messages, Thank You.

I have an consultation on 6th April with Fertility  Doctor to discuss my next steps, so will see what comes out of that.

I getting back to my normal self  and take comfort in the fact that we did get as far as making little embies.  I am still trying naturally (defeated but not deterred, lol) I have started taking my temperature and doing opk's.  I am on cd 11 and my LH is rising everyday... I can seen by the line getting darking on the ovulation tests and my temperature has started rising, meaning ovulation is near.  

At the beginning of my IVF treatment I don't think I mentioned that they discoverd my insulin is high and prescribed Metformin for me.  So I am hoping that might be balancing out my hormones may be the winning  factor.

Scaredycat, if you are still checking out this forum, are you doing temperature and ovulation tests? 

Shopa how are you doing?

Hope all is going well with everyone

Thank you honeybun and scaredycat.  Reading your messages even made me cry...

I think I will wait til tomoro nite to get a good bottle of wine and drown my sorrow.

All the best with your ter/ivf cycles girls..

Well, I have just got the call from a nurse and she has confirmed that it is a BFN.  No presence of HCG at all. 

Thanks for everyones well wishes and I wish you all the best.

I will be popping in every now and then to see how you guys are doing

Thanks Scaredycat.

I started spotting last night and this morning my AF and pains have started coming through today.   I had the blood test done and phoned the clinic and they said they will advise what to do once they have the results. 

I feel so devastated and keep bursting into tears  

Hi Scaredycat,  May is just round the corner and no harm in trying au natural :)

I got another BFN today  and after googling most people have a faint line by 11dp3dt.

But still hoping... Wednesday is D Day!!!

Thanks Scaredycat and Shopa, specially for being there for me along the way.

How is it going for you guys??

Thanks Tulips... I am trying hard to be positive, but finding it difficult.  Methinks I need to go for a long walk on the beach to get the endorphins (feelgood hormones) going lol.

10 days past ET and I think things are not all good for at the mo.  I have taken a hpt and a BFN.  On top of that my boobs n nips are no longer sore, and I have had no other symptoms so I am sure that the little embies have not stuck.   Wednesday is my bloodtest but Im sure that it will just confirm it...

Thanks shopa

9 days to go for bloodtest!

Best wishes everyone.

Thanks Scaredycat.  I am really not feeling very positive at the moment...  but lets see if a miracle happens.

I had my embies transferred today.  Day 3 and they were only 5 cells each.  I have to just hope in earnest that the little things grow and stick.   The third one had stopped at 2 cells, so no frosty.

Now the dreaded 2 week wait..

Hope everyone is doing fine

Well, got the call this morning...  5 of the eggs were too small to be fertilised and 3 have fertilised..   (not sure what happened to 1).

Now a two day long wait for them to be transferred.

Chin up and good wishes everyone.

Today they retrieved 9 eggs!  Lets hope they all become embies ... pleeeease

The nurses and embroyologist and everyone were very kind and gentle, there was hardly any pain, and the the sedation made me feel so fine.

Now to wait for the nurses call and the transfer date...

Hi Shopa, 

I did my ovidrel shot exactly at 9.45pm (in my tummy) and it made me feel a bit sleepy (or maybe it is in my head lol) and went straight to bed.    

Today has just been draagging, tomorrow just cant come soon enough... I am going to set my alarm and both our mobile phones to make sure that we get up early tomorrow.

Otherwise I have had no side effects at all.  Although I have been eating heaps!!! comfort eating perhaps?

Scaredycat, good that you are up and running and preparing for the next round.  Nice that you have two months off, now you can relax and enjoy a glass of wine.  Gosh there has been some nights when I have felt like one! 

Thank you for the good wishes and all the best for everyone 

Thanks Scaredycat, how are you doing?  When are you starting your next

I had to get my blood test this morning for E2 and it was 8361 which means I might have 8 mature eggs.  I learnt that every 1000 represents one mature egg.   I think I will be a google and fertility pro after this! 

The nurse phoned and said my ovidrel shot must be at 9.45pm tonight and then after that no more injections.  Think I am going miss that routine.  Then Monday at 9.45am is egg collection time.  I hope it is not too painful, knowing me I will be crying through it... drama queen that I am..

Well, today I went for my second scan and now have 9 follicles???

After the scan, the nurse gave me the measurements and,  true to form, I burst out crying.... I just thought one less follicle - one less chance  AND the left side one don't seem to be growing.   She said not to worry sometimes they can't be seen.   From what I have googled, not all follicles have embryos.  This is my only shot at ivf and my odds seem to be diminishing by the day.  sniff..

My measurements were :

Left : 10mm, 12mm, 13mm,

Right : 17mm, 2x 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 25mm

My E2 for day 7 was 3513

Anyway,  I have been told that my egg collection is Monday morning.  So please hold thumbs for me.     (If anyone is still following my journey)

Hi Scaredycat, I am so sorry.. my heart goes out to you!   

Please stay in touch, I would still love to know how it goes with your you and your embies.

I had my scan and have 10 follicles!  I am not sure how many will have eggs in them.  I will be going for another scan on Friday so another two sleepies lol.

Measurements are : 

Left : 7mm, 12mm, 15mm, 17mm  and

Right : 10mm, 2x 13mm, 2x15mm, 17mm

I have had quite a tight chest and been using my asthma pump quite a bit.  I hope it doesn't affect anything.

How is everyone else doing?? 

Hiya, I was googling ivf  etc. today and i came across a website re bleeding in first stages and they mentioned that if progesterone is low then can cause bleeding and I thought of your situation.  Yea, I think you should call them and get  tested as soon as. :)  or maybe even your gp can do a blood form?

Wednesday I get my scan for follicle size... I am so excited and scared!!!

hi ScaredyCat,  i was just wondering if you are taking progesterone pessaries? and how are you doing?

Hi Scaredycat, that seems to be a positive sign if you hcg has risen? I have found this other site that seems to be helpful too.  See the link for hcg daily rise in pregnancy.    http://babymed.com/faq/Content.aspx?14374

My first blood test is on the 19th Feb and scan.  Then the trigger shot after that.  The days are going tooo slowly.

Wishing you lots of hcg!

ScaredyCat, I hope today is a happy day for you...

Today was the actual day for me to start the gonal f.. I primed the pen and injected but when I withdrew the needle it left a lot on my tummy (even after leaving it for 10 seconds).  I hope I did it right.... 

ScaredyCat,  I hope it is okay for you.

Hi Scaredycat,  will be thinking of you today. 

Great that you have joined the forum 'first time ivf', I have been following Scaredycat and great now there's another person to follow.

Monday I have to phone my nurse for a baseline bloodtest and then on Wednesday I start the gonal F.  I think I have forgotten how to use the pens (the priming bit) but might go into greenlane and ask a nurse to show me again. 

I hope there are no side effects with the gonal f.  Can anyone tell me if there is anything else to be taken after the ovidrel?  is progesterone taken too?

Lots of baby dust for you All  

Well got my af on Tuesday and the pains to go along with it.  Hopefully won't have those for the next 9 months lol...

I suppose I have been focussing too much on getting pregnant with the ICSI and not thinking about the upside that I may manage to get frozen embryos for future...

Well, I have been taking the buserelin injections for seven days now without even a  hint of pain  yay.  Just twelve days until I start with the gonal injections. 

I have been feeling a bit emotional the last two days but I think it might be pms because I am due for AF on tuesday.

Like Shopa says, got to be positive . .and trying to eat and live healthy. ..

Shopa,  I am in the same boat.  For years I have been hoping and then get depressed when I get AF, worse if it is a day or two late.  Sometimes when I go shopping and I see a baby or newborn I get a pain in my heart and feel that life is not fair.  Sorry to sound so miserable.   If this IVF doesnt work I am going to have to work out a way to get over it and move on.

My period is due on Tuesday but I am not sure if I will get it because I have been having the buserelin injections...  would you know?

Talking about neurophen... a friend of mine who battled to conceive and then did, told me not to take nerophen and only disprin, she also said drink whole milk and use butter not marg, lol.

Please let me know how you are doing..