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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : I must say that the worst thing...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4896">jax</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 April 2006 at 10:16pm<br /><br />I must say that the worst thing about tonight was that the map we were given was TOTALLY useless, the rest of it was really average, and the "best" bit was meeting other people. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Thanks, that would be great!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4697">ErinC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 April 2006 at 9:05am<br /><br />Thanks, that would be great!  Im going to my first antenatal class tonight too (through Birthcare), so Ill ask there as well.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Hi Erin, I think it&amp;#039;s at...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10326">Deez</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 April 2006 at 8:46am<br /><br />Hi Erin,<br />I think it's at Waitakere hospital somewhere but in saying that i think they run the same classes at North Shore Hospital, i'll ask tonight when i go to my first antenatal class.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />If you want you can ring them on 486 8920 ext 3048#, you'll just be asked to leave your name, number and expected due date, Barbara will call you back with details.<br />Either way i'll let you know what i find out tonight.<br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Hi Deez, Where are you going for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4697">ErinC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 April 2006 at 8:35am<br /><br />Hi Deez,<br />Where are you going for the stretch and Tone classes?  I would be quite interested in doing that.  I have been told that its a good idea to get some of the muscles we dont normally use ready for labour.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : The pool temp remained comfortable...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=636">deharn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 10:30pm<br /><br />The pool temp remained comfortable the whole time i was in there, I recall Marie (midwife) adding water. It was very very hot in the hospital so I had a fan blowing on me as well.<br /><br />As for floaties there certainly wasn't anything that I was aware of that was too gross. I do recall some stuff but I think it got scooped out. Hubbie never told me of groos stuff but I didn't push/birth in the water. <br /><br />Obviously it is inevetable that there will be blood etc when you birth but it wouldn't be any worse than you laying/kneeling etc in what comes out.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : wow that sounds wicked becca ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 7:52pm<br /><br />wow that sounds wicked becca <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : As far as a pool goes, I have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=976">daikini</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 7:42pm<br /><br />As far as a pool goes, I have no idea...<br /><br />I had both my babies in a bath... my midwives both times just kept refreshing the water around me, and washing the "floaties" down the drain.  This also meant the water stayed at a fairly constant temperature, and she was able to adjust it to suit me pretty quickly.  Nathaniel was actually quite impressed with how swiftly and discretely Gaenor was able to do it - she was so good, I had no idea until he told me that she had!  I was aware that she'd warmed up/cooled down the bath at my request, but I didn't have to get out at any point once I was given the go-ahead to start pushing.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : I want to labour in the pool but...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10420">robyn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 7:33pm<br /><br />I want to labour in the pool but not actually have this baby in it. I wanted to do the same with Kobe but wasnt able to. Im really worried about 'floaties' though, does the water get very messy?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : i didnt give brith in the water...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 7:28pm<br /><br />i didnt give brith in the water i had a emergy c- section but i did laubour in water for about 2 hours and thats when it was real sore but the water helps and makes you kinda flot<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Well, with everything being so...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4896">jax</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 6:23pm<br /><br />Well, with everything being so normal, I am quite happy to plan for baby to be born in the pool as well - but will not be terribly heartbroken if it doesn't actually happen that way. I have always found water wonderful and supportive and just thought that for such a big event, why not ! I'm not going to tell my mum for a while though, because I think it will freak her out - she is doing more than enough worrying for the both of us (she is somewhat sensitive to all this media carry-on I think).]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Oooh i am so in for a waterbirth...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 5:46pm<br /><br />Oooh i am so in for a waterbirth kinda lol ill have to see if they have them at kenepuru lol]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : I agree Lu... waterbirths are...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=976">daikini</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 4:25pm<br /><br />I agree Lu... waterbirths are great!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : labour in the pool is wicked its...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 4:24pm<br /><br />labour in the pool is wicked its so much easyers and the warmth of the water makes the contrctions so much easyer to bear<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Personally, I found a spabath...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=976">daikini</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 1:34pm<br /><br />Personally, I found a spabath more hygenic than the birthing pool - not because of any previous users or anything like that, but rather because my midwives were able to keep refreshing the water as I made a mess of it!<br /><br />I don't think I have the option of a water birth this time... after 2 of them, I'm not sure what a "bed" birth will be like!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Hey Jax I can not stress enough...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=636">deharn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 1:23pm<br /><br />Hey Jax I can not stress enough just how much easier labour is in the pool - BIG TIME!!!!! <br /><br />The comparison of a contraction out of the birthing pool compared to in the water is just so amazing. <br /><br />My midwife was very pro water birth and we decided late into the pregnancy that we would have one. I unfortunately didn't deliver in the pool. My labour began at 1.30am, went to the hospital at 3am  and straight into the pool. I got out a couple of times to go to the loo and check dilation. Then I had to get out at 6.50am so the midwife could break my waters. The instant she did that I had to push continuosly and couldn't get off the bed. Delivered at 7.02am. <br /><br />So I was bit gutted i didn't get to have my delivery in the pool BUT my point is it makes labour so much easier!!!!!!! <br /><br />And a little tip for those who are going to deliver if standing on your head naked on the roof of the hospital makes labour easier -you will do it!!!!!!! <br /><br />I used no pain relief either because of the pool, had no stitches and Sam was 9lb11oz. Hoping the pool contributed to that and not that fact that possibly I am like the grand canyon <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> I was then home in my own bed by 9.30am! <br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : umm play i wound,nt call it play...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 11:03am<br /><br />umm play i wound,nt call it play in the pool lol did u get a good sleep jax  didnt james diced it was play time all night arrggghhhhhh<br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Woohoo good stuff Jax im glad...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 10:25am<br /><br />Woohoo good stuff Jax im glad you are super happy <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> I wanna play in the birthing pool to  but i dont know if kenepuru have them lol will have to research lol dont wanna give birth in there tho lol]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Same I&amp;#039;ve booked in for antenatal...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10326">Deez</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 April 2006 at 9:07am<br /><br />Same I've booked in for antenatal classes that start this Thursday night a 7pm but I'm attending the classes at Waitakere Hospital....I've also made enquiries into the stretch and Tone classes which Kaylene (Midwife) recommended i do to help me get ready for birth....]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Yes mummy Lu ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4896">jax</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 April 2006 at 9:30pm<br /><br />Yes mummy Lu <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : sounds great about the new midwife...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 April 2006 at 9:23pm<br /><br />sounds great about the new midwife and the physio a water thats what i wanted and still wish i counld of had now go get some sleep lol<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA["new" midwife + birth classes + physio ! : Whew ! Didn&amp;#039;t know if I could...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4896">jax</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2116<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 April 2006 at 8:56pm<br /><br />Whew ! Didn't know if I could cram everything into the title LOL <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Had my physio appointment this morning, which was really good - am going to go weekly, but have my Bella Mama massages as well, which I must remember to book <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> She gave me an exercise to do for my back, which should be quite good, and if I do it regularly could help with labour as well. <br /><br />Had my appointment with my "new" midwife as well, and I'm stoked - I really like her and her approach to things, so I think it will go pretty well <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> Am even quite seriously contemplating a water birth, as it was one of the things I had wanted to ask about anyway. Still planning to deliver at Birthcare too, which is good <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"><br /><br />And I *almost* forgot again, as I was supposed to do it last night, but booked in for antenatal classes at North Shore Hospital. They'll be on Thursday nights for six weeks and the lady I spoke to said it was good timing for when I'm due, we'll finish up when I'm about 33 weeks I think. There are going to be eight couples in total, I'm almost more interested in how Roland is going to find the classes than what I might find out or learn LOL <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"><br /><br />Anyway, that's all my "news" really, am going to TRY and sign off soon, another early start tomorrow (7am, ick !)... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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