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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : How is Oliver&amp;#039;s weight gain...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10436">Andie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 November 2007 at 10:25am<br /><br /><P align=left>How is Oliver's weight gain going, Sam?&nbsp; I'm guessing that there's cause for concern if Plunket also think there's not enough breastmilk for him?&nbsp; But is he alert (well, as alert as a 3-week-old gets?), does he seem generally OK within himself, or is he not looking too well?&nbsp; I'm asking because as I learnt with Ella, low weight gain can worry a mum sick, but it's really important to look at how alert/active/happy the child is too, because some kids are just small.&nbsp; It's time to worry when they're small and lethargic.&nbsp; </P><P align=left>You're already doing everything you can and I think you deserve&nbsp;a big pat on the back and some recognition for that, because it's such hard work.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And like others said, babies are far more effective at getting milk from a breast than a breast pump is.&nbsp; Expressing works well on some boobies, not so well on others, and some people find different pumps better than others too.&nbsp;&nbsp;And it's so frustrating because you can't measure what you baby has drunk straight from the breast, so you've only got his disposition and health to try and measure it by.&nbsp; But remember that it's still early days for you, and it seems so many of us had awful struggles with breastfeeding in the beginning.&nbsp; For some it gets easier and becomes really convenient and lovely, and for others it doesn't, but don't feel guilty if it doesn't - it's not your fault at all.&nbsp; And many, many babies have thrived on formula.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : SimSam - I think you&amp;#039;ve got...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=804">jaz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 November 2007 at 8:59pm<br /><br />SimSam - I think you've got the right attitude there. When I had DD I BF, expressed and topped up and just got exhausted so gave up at six weeks and put her on the bottle full time. She thrived. <br /><br />DS was slow to gain weight and the advise I got from the Family Centre was to BF, express and top up. I could see myself getting exhausted again so I persued with the breastfeeding but gave him one bottle before bed each night. He's continued to track along the 3rd percentile on the plunket charts but he's very alert so I'm not worried about his weight. Someones got to be little. Now he's just over four months old, we've both got the hang of it and I'm really pleased I went with my own gut feelings and persued. <br /><br />Do what works for you and your baby. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : I agree with Anna, phone the La...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18691">3boys</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 November 2007 at 9:24am<br /><br />I agree with Anna, phone the La Leche League - they have all sorts of tips and tricks and you might be able to attend a meeting in your local area where you can get support from other mums.<br /><br />Give yourself a break though - your baby is still so tiny and BF takes at least a month to establish.<br /><br />One thing I found that might help is that the pump never stimulated my breasts as well as the baby did, so although when I fed the baby he was getting milk - when I pumped nothing would come out. I thought I had no milk - but this was not true. A pump can work well for many women, but for others not so well.<br /><br />I would try the three R's as mentioned above, go to bed with the baby for a couple of days if you can and lie low, feed your baby, but also let him suckle as much as you can without getting sore nipples. The other thing to try is switch nursing - I have heard that this can help also where instead of switching sides twice in a feed switch four times, right to left, left to right etc<br /><br />In the end the best thing to stimulate milk production is the baby.<br /><br />Good luck - don't be too hard on yourself - the most important thing is a happy mama - happy mama, happy baby.<br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : SimSam I think you are doing a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16220">peachy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 November 2007 at 9:10am<br /><br />SimSam I think you are doing a fantastic job by persevering!!  You are doing the best for Ollie by ensuring he is well fed, whether its EBM, boobie or formula it doesn't matter!<br /><br />I know we all have ideals and breastfeeding is generally one of them, but honestly all my ideals went out the window in the first few days after Lauren was born, I could not breastfeed her for 6 days straight.  I felt terrible and such a bad mother already, but she took the EBM and formula top ups and was happy so that was all that mattered!<br /><br />Last night I gave up breastfeeding and expressed a bottle for Lauren as I was so frustrated with her fussing and messing about and I was exhausted.<br /><br />Please know that you are NOT the only one feeling like this, although my problems are slightly different than yours, I am still having them!!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Sim Sam   for you!  I struggled...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17898">MissCandice</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 November 2007 at 8:23am<br /><br />Sim Sam <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> for you!<br /><br />I struggled for 6 and a half weeks.. now kylah is a happy bouncy very smiley formula baby.. yeah i felt bad for a couple weeks, but at least shes fed.. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Sounds like you have a fantastic...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17969">cuppatea</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 November 2007 at 7:49am<br /><br />Sounds like you have a fantastic DH and I think that is a very sensible approach to take. Good luck and remember you're doing a great job.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Thanks for all your kind words...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 10:09pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Thanks for all your kind words of support. I had a wee meltdown this morning to poor old DH on the phone whilst he was at work....we talked it through and decided that the best thing for ALL of us, is to just keep going with the breastfeeding and topping him up with formula and EBM. If the b/f falls into place and we both get better at it then thats fantastic, if not then he is getting enough to eat from the formula top-ups. We figured that the stress of everything was just making the whole situation worse and not doing me or Ollie any good! I am still going to be pro-active about increasing my milk, but not obsessively as I have been - I dont need the added stress or pressure. I just need to learn to "go with the flow" and I think that by making the choice to not make a choice (does that make sense) things will be a lot calmer in our house! </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : I struggled on for 10 or so weeks...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 8:15pm<br /><br />I struggled on for 10 or so weeks with the gremlins, have just bumped up a thread from back then where I got lots of support and encouragement and ideas.<br /><br />I did mourn for the fact that I gave up breastfeeding before I really wanted to, but at the end of the day I had to do what worked for me and baby/ies. And I also decided that I wasn't going to be defensive about my decision, or feel the need to justify my decision - I chose to give MY babies formula, it was MY choice, and everyone else could go and get sodded.<br /><br />A year down the track I do still have the odd regret, but I tell you what, there is only so much you can stand - I had the agony of mastitis, cracked nipples which ended up with a staph infection, issues with getting the girls to latch and ended up fully express feeding which was totally exhausting! Now I'm less exhausted and more pragmatic about it, and rest assured that putting this babe on formula doesn't mean you can't try b/feeding again next time round, I successfully fed Maya for 10 months, and plan to do the same again next time round.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16140">Anna</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 3:42pm<br /><br />When I was having problems I phoned La Leche, just picked a number out of the bpook and then phoned my local person.  The first woman I spoke to sounded like she was reading to me straight from the LLL manual, no help whatsoever but the second woman I spoke to was FANTASTIC!! She gave me oodles of suggestions that I had never thought of and was really supportive!  Worth a try?  ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Hi SimSam, Firstly I think you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17969">cuppatea</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 2:00pm<br /><br />Hi SimSam,<br />Firstly I think you are doing a great job. <br />Expressing after feeds may help increase your supply but latching bubs on more often is normally a better way. You also need to make sure you are getting enough rest, fluids and food. You need to eat far more whilst breastfeeding than you did when pregnant cos now you actually are eating for 2.<br />Is Ollie already having formula? I think from a previous post you said he was or had. So what I would suggest is expressing after your feeds during the day and just bfeeding him during the night so that you can get back to bed quicker and get some much needed rest. If need be top him up with formula. <br />Also don't stress about how much you express after a feed, if you express anything out it means you have produced more than he drank at that feed which is a good thing.<br />I would also look at getting some collection cups that you can wear that will collect the milk from the side that you are not feeding from, you can then freeze in ice cube trays or put in the fridge and then you will have ebm to top him up with at the feeds where you milk supply is lower.<br />The frequency of you expressing/feeding will make a difference too, so to get your supply up you could try expressing/feeding 2 hourly which is generally what babies have you doing when they growth spurt as the natural way of building up the supply.<br /><br />Ok about how long before switching to formula.<br />I bfed for 3 months and I would say that half of that time was purely done because I felt I had too not because it was the best thing for me or Spencer. I had repeated breast infections and nothing I did seemed to stop them from re-occuring. I pretty much spent the whole 3 months in agony, I ended up not wanting to put Spencer anywhere near my boobs and for the last 5 weeks I expressed all his feeds and bottle fed him them. I felt guilty even for not latching him on, even though he was still getting breast milk. When I made the very difficult decision not to carry on breastfeeding after I got yet another infection I got very upset and quite depressed about it and felt like a complete failure. I still get upset about it now even though the rational part of me knows that is was the right thing to do, but I get upset less often, and Spencer is thriving and i'm no longer feeling sick all the time and am able to enjoy being a mum.<br /><br />I think as someone else said you need to set yourself a deadline and if its still not working then stop and try to let yourself be ok about it.<br />I had said one more infection and I would stop but it was still hard, with number 2 me and DH have already agreed that I will stop if I have 2 infections.<br /><br />Oh and one last thing, have you thought about feeding half and half rather than stopping altogher?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Lactation consultant said that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17912">Rackhell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 11:32am<br /><br />Lactation consultant said that to breastfeed you need to follow the 3 R's.  Rest, Rehydrate and be Ravenous.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : Eat protein with each meal (x3)...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17912">Rackhell</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 11:31am<br /><br />Eat protein with each meal (x3) and with every snack (x3).  A doctor that I talked with said that you need 3 times as much protein when you're breastfeeding than an ordinary woman.<br /><br />That said, if a lactation consultant or la leche person can't assist you, then switch to formula.  Happy mum = happy bub.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17831">ShellandBella</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 11:02am<br /><br />I have had dilemmas with supply since the beginning, but persevered for 8 weeks when things seemed to come right on their own. You kind of have to go with your gut though, it would have been so easy for me to switch to formula but I was determined not to go that route until Bella was at least 12 weeks. <br /><br />On the other hand, if you really are struggling and getting stressed by it all, it may be the best decision for you and bubs, but again, only you know whats right for you. Have you tried the 'milk flow' tablets or domperidone for increasing milk supply?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16223">my2angels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 8:59am<br /><br />there is not right or wrong answer here, you just need to do what is best for you and bubs. If you have to switch to forumla you havent failed in anyway so dont feel guilty. Just read through some threads on here, you will see there are heaps of us who have gone down the formula road and all our babies are now healthy happy toddlers!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17637">TaylasMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 8:50am<br /><br />I had to switch to formula when Tayla was 1 week old she was good I was good, but my poor nipples were'nt, my partner helped me in my decision and I knew it was the best thing for all of us, I hope it all goes well for you <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 8:22am<br /><br />I couldn't express first time around either but I definitely had enough milk, just wouldn't come out with a machine!!<br /><br />Hugs to you.  Hope it all looks better at the start of a new day.  I am all for breastfeeding but you have to make the decision that is right for you in the end and if you feel you can't go on anymore then make the switch.  It won't help your milk supply etc. if you are miserable and feel like you are failing.  Of course breast milk is "better" but formula won't hurt Ollie either.  Don't feel pressured one way or the other.  Make the decision that is right FOR YOU AND OLLIE.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4889">Kazzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 8:12am<br /><br />i switched to formula at 4wks because my baby was starving, and was about to be labeled failure to thrive, i couldnt express and had no milk.<br /><br />I remember the 3am attempts at feeding and expressing and remember being so tired i couldnt think straight, so i agree 3am isnt the best time to make a decision like this.<br /><br />In saying that, i have a very happy healthy toddler, so there is no wrong decision, you just have to decide what is best for you and baby.<br /><br />Good luck :O)]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[How L&#111;ng &amp; What next? : i think also you need to give...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 7:46am<br /><br />i think also you need to give your body more than 2 weeks...and dont forget that expressing may not give you much but it doesnt mean you arent producing.  some bodies just dont respond well to expressing.  The best way to stimulate your milk production is to let your baby feed...oh and keep up your own fluids too.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16231">Redbedrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 7:24am<br /><br />Jennz is right 3am is not the time for decisions, it's hard enough expressing at that time without making emotional based decisions.<br />I have kinda been where you are, I struggled with breast feeding, expressing latching problems, and low milk supply, using homeopathic and medical supplements.<br />I am happy to answer questions if you want to PM me, but in summary I attempted to bf Fay for 7 weeks and it didn't work for us, so I then expressed as much milk as I could to bottle feed her and topped up her daily amount with formula for 6 months, before switching to formula full time.  I have a very happy 11 month old who is strong, not fat and we have a very close strongly bonded relationship (now)<br />Set your self time goals, I got to 6 weeks and decided I could do 3 months and so on, but at your stage my goals were to do it for one more day<br />Good luck and feel free to pm me<br />Claire]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4613">Jennz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 3:53am<br /><br />First thing, don't make the decision at 3am! <br />Make sure you are getting lots of rest, eating well and drinking lots of water. My milk supply is really sensitive and if I skip a meal, exercise too much or don't drink enough water then I really notice it by the evening feeds. <br /><br />Is he gaining weight?<br /><br />I think most people know when they reach that point where they feel they have done their best and its either worked or it hasn't.  I found it easeir to cope with when I set myself a goal- with DD1 it was, if I hadn't got it by 6 weeks then I was switching and with DD2 it was, if I got more than 2 bouts of Mastitis then I would switch. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12051<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2007 at 3:17am<br /><br /><P>So, its 3am and I am sitting in the lounge expressing in an attempt to stimulate more milk. I had a great day at the Plunket Family Centre, but the ladies there have said they dont think I am producing enough milk - which I kind of already knew. </P><P>I was wondering how long people sdtruggled on with b/f before switching to formula and how they coped with making that decision? I am taking everything under the sun to try and increase my milk, but nothing seems to be working? I try to express after each feed, but its pretty exhausting for very little return. </P><P>I want to do the right thing for Ollie, but am not sure what that is at the moment? </P>]]>
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