emachan wrote: anyone know how I (and DH) can get some more energy to BD? (I'm not a morning person - I love to sleep in as long as possible, BD or no BD!)

Emachan- I SOOOOOOOOO know how you feel! My DP has a very physical job, as well as (by nature) not the highest libido I've ever seen!   He thinks I do, which I disagree with (that's a whole nother story!).... but when he is tired and not wanting to BD, regardless of OV, it just makes the whole thing more stressful. He's slowly realsiing the mechanics of making a baby though as I think he thought if we just didn't use protection, I would get pg the very first go, regardless of the time of the month!

Maybe we all need to have ealier nights and more B12?!

Ok, just read my last post and realise that it makes it sould like my mother still BFs to stop from getting PG! So to clarify, she USED to when she had us as littlies. But obviously no longer, she had a historectomy nearly 16yrs ago now!

Yep I realise its not foolproof for everyone, so if you are getting AF then it would seem that everything is back to working. But I would agree that it may take longer than usual (ie. if not BFing) And indeed there are many women that use this method to prevent getting pg. (My mother for one!)

I personally think its great that you are still BFing, I only hope I can BF our wee one for that long, I think the bond between mother and child is just amazing, and can't wait to experience it.

All the best with your TTC, and may we all have a whole bunch of *BABYDUST* to all that are hoping for their little miracle this cycle.   

Hey Chonny, have just noticed that you are still breastfeeding Vincent. I'm not sure if you are aware, but for most women, breastfeeding is equal to the pill as a contraceptive. So I'm guessing that your lack of success is largely down to this.

Plus, and this is def going to be WAY WAY WAY TMI, BUT have you considered on the days that he isn't interested in sex, then perhaps he could 'do it by hand' into a clean vessel and then you can do the turkey baster technique... I know, not very sexy, but hey, there would be more chance of you getting pg. Apparantly according to new studies in the UK, we need to be BDing every day to two days in order to be more successful.

Good luck to you luv, I know how hard this can get.

Babydust to all!

Oh, and Emachan, it would seem that we are both due to test on Wednesday, funny how it times out like that huh.

Best of luck, I don't hold out much hope for us this month, but hey, every month is a lottery isn't it.

Babydust to all, and hope you are all managing to spice things up in the boudoir!

Chonny, just a thought, but do you think it might help if you perhaps spiced it up a bit, or approached him when he least expects it? Sorry if its TMI, but I know for a fact that most guys can't resist waking up to a bit of a roll in the hay, as it were, ie. waking him up by a bit of touchy feely. Feel free to tell me this is none of my business, just thought that from what you have been saying, you haven't really got anything to lose by trying.

Also you could sit down with him and write down all the things he likes you to do to him (in THAT way) and you do the same. You put them in a jar and each day, or every 2nd day (whatever suits you) you pull one out, and have to do it before the end of the day.

I guess if all else fails then perhaps it is time he saw a councillor regarding some of his deep set personal issues with sex. (coming from a Psychology student here) it is likely that his being raised christian has done some damage in the way he regards sex, and a councillor could definitely help. But I guess that is all based on him actually wanting to go, but I would say that he would be eager to work thru it for the sake of your relationship.

All the best with this, I hope you get some sort of resolution soon.

Ok, so a little more honest than I thought I would ever be to 'strangers' ehem, but what the hey, I feel like I know y'all well enough by now.

We were finding the same problem, it felt like we were just going thru the motions as it were, and almost doing it out of obligation due to the whole 'got to be in to win, no BD, no chance this month...' type thing.

So I stopped telling him about my cycles, and if I had to temp I'd do it in the bathroom so he wouldn't see. Emails and txt messages of a 'sensitive' nature helped with the anticipation, and I have to agree with the above comment on the outdoors, and the potentially getting caught. Outdoors rocks, especially in a thin tent with other campers about! And as for getting caught, we 'ehemed' once at my parents place while on holiday, and we both knew they were pretty light sleepers, so that had a real element of danger to it.

I think what has helped is just being spontaneous, and still sensual. So touching, and sensual foreplay certainly help to bring back that 'first date' feeling where you couldn't keep your hands off him.

And if you can bear it, maybe stop charting, temping, counting for a month and see how you go, just whenever the whim takes you. Anytime, not just potential baby time.

Sorry if this has been TMI, but just thought it was a pretty important issue I had to put my 2cents worth in, for what its worth.

Best of luck, and by the by, those calendars are apparently REALLY worth it!

It seems like a long time ago now that we were "trying".....but yeah I was starting to feel the same way a little bit (all a bit mechanical!). One of the things that I found helpful was not limiting "it" to the bedroom or to nighttime. Sat / Sun morning lazy lie-ins with the paper and coffee, spur of the moment "cuddles" when you least expect them....and the other favourite "the quickie"!

Hope thats not TMI!! Good Luck!